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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: My trip to Iowa
« on: May 01, 2006, 10:22:29 PM »
great review!

having spent some time in parts of west texas (and even some parts of houston) the ruralness isn't a big deal for me. i've shared the road with a horse on a few occasions, so a tractor isn't a huge deal...

the HOUSING however is a big deal...

run-down. does that mean just old? not well-kept? dilapidated? can you elaborate?

i might need to actually go and visit first before i decide where to live. yikes, i was hoping to be able to avoid that, but oh well.

again, great review. thanks for posting it.


I was totally going to PM you but I've been working almost non stop since I got back from Iowa. Housing is going to be a definite issue I think. I'm signed up for an apartment in the University Apts but they are just SO run down; they look old and institutional and just generally not so great. I will be up in the next few weeks to find some housing; hopefully we can find something a little nicer. I really want to avoid having to drive to school, though, so in that case I might just be stuck living there. There were also a lot of kids toys and I think there are a lot of families that live there which is bad bad bad for students trying to study. I dont' like kids--sorry, I like quiet. So I gotta figure that part out

Otherwise the school seems great

Cheer up!
I came from a poor family and beleive me, I have lived in some of the worst apartments known to mankind.  And generally, I would be willing to live a shithole for three years just to save money, so I will have more freedom at choosing diff. career path down the road. 
Three years is a long time, but it will pass. 

Yiplong you are right; I didnt' mean to sound like a "princess" I was just a little less than impressed. I think I"m just overwhelmed by the process in general--too many second thoughts.

We'll for sure miss you at Iowa--you seem super cool.


Greengrl...

What kind of placement questions did you ask?  Are you planning on working in Chicago after you leave?  I know there are nice townhouses esp in cedar rapids so that is always an option by the way just an FYI...

Also, maybe I'll see you there.  I haven't decided on Kent or Iowa yet..

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Visiting Urbana-Champaign
« on: April 27, 2006, 11:29:31 AM »
regardless the public transportion around C-U is pretty good.  Especially if you're going to be living relatively close to campus.

with my purchasing power, i don't think I can afford a house close enough to campus to enjoy their mass transit.  But that won't be a problem down the road because after living in NYC, I hate mass transit and prefer to go by car.  I wil probably be buying a cheap house on the edge of town to live for 3 years, hopefully with a roommate. 

Yiplong, a few weeks ago you were favoring Iowa what changed your mind?  Also, housing is very cheap in UIUC.  Try Urbana its a little nicer area, you don't need a car if you're okay with walking, the free buses are really nice and have good range.

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Acceptances / Re: In at Iowa
« on: April 21, 2006, 02:55:28 PM »
I just got into Iowa as well and, like you, I applied because it's top 25.  I also found out that they have a renowned legal writing program.  They also place well in most large midwestern cities.  Finally, if you spend your first summer working with a professor you automatically get in-state tuition the following year.

Matt, where do you hear well that it places well in Large midwestern cities?  I'm very interested but I am still not decided vs. Kent


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Acceptances / Re: Kent v. Loyola
« on: April 21, 2006, 02:47:48 PM »
why did you say you were underwhelmed? anyone else go the the c-k admitted days weekend and have any feedback?

I was underwhelmed at Kent.  I loved the LOOK of the school but the walk through with the Kent student didn't seem all that exciting.  Then again I was not there during admit days and just about all I care about is how GOOD the school is in terms of getting jobs in Chicago...

My questions were all concerning after graduation prospects and he just didn't pitch very well.

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Acceptances / Re: Iowa vs. Notre Dame
« on: April 21, 2006, 02:45:04 PM »
What program of law do you want to practice?
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Just curious why does it matter?  I did not think that Iowa or ND had a particularily strong single area of law.  Also, I would pick ND, although Iowa is better ranked its not quite as strong in Chicago (from what I hear). 

I'm trying to decide between Kent and Iowa still... Iowa and ND/UIUC wouldn't be much of a competition.

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Law School Rankings / Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« on: April 20, 2006, 03:25:18 PM »
Burghbuh;

Given a choice of Kent Law and Uof Iowa for Chicago jobs (I would like to go into Biglaw)... which one would you choose?  I've posted this question before and get mixed reviews.  I'm not sure if these people have attempted to get jobs in Chicago and actually know the market but perhaps you have some experiance or know those who have had some experiance finding work in Chicago...

I am purely interested in my ability to find a good paying (80K+) after graduation.

I would have said Kent, but the other poster replied with the exact opposite response.  I guess Iowa is a very good regional school, and it's in the midwest.  So it wouldn't surprise me if a lot (even most) of their grads ended up in Chicago.  I'd recommend looking at USNWR's detailed stats for Iowa and finding out where most of their grads go.  If 75% of them take the IL bar exam, then it's a good bet you won't have any trouble getting into Chicago Biglaw with an Iowa degree.

As far as Biglaw firms here in Chi-town not hiring from Kent, I can't speak one way or the other on that.  My assumption was that other than NU and UoC, all other Chicago schools probably competed pretty equally for jobs here.  But I'm not familiar with their rankings - is Kent a T4 school, and are DePaul, Loyola, and John Marshall T2 schools?  Maybe that makes a difference, I don't know.  At the very least, I'll say that if you want a Biglaw job coming out of any of those lower ranked schools, you better be in the top 10 or 15% of your class to make the interview cutoff.  And if, for whatever reason, Biglaw firms don't interview at your school at all, then you might be totally SOL.
School/USnews ranking...
Iowa 22
Kent 60
Loyola 74
DePaul 80

However, I'm not sure if this ranking holds true for Chicago.

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Law School Rankings / Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« on: April 20, 2006, 08:00:18 AM »
Burghbuh;

Given a choice of Kent Law and Uof Iowa for Chicago jobs (I would like to go into Biglaw)... which one would you choose?  I've posted this question before and get mixed reviews.  I'm not sure if these people have attempted to get jobs in Chicago and actually know the market but perhaps you have some experiance or know those who have had some experiance finding work in Chicago...

I am purely interested in my ability to find a good paying (80K+) after graduation.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: scholarship waitlist?
« on: April 11, 2006, 09:42:57 PM »
yup, so far everyone i've talked to go it. i emailed them....they're all out of money. what a total head game!

I got the scholarship ding as well...

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: CAN"T DECIDE!!!!
« on: April 11, 2006, 03:23:51 PM »
Well, I think that we're in slightly similar situations (i.e. moving to be close to family).  I would say this:

1.  Would your wife be happier in Chicago or Iowa?
2.  See #1
3.  Also, if you go to Iowa and then move to Chicago to work, you bascially have to rip up both your lives twice.  You'd have to find a new place, your wife would have to find another job, etc.  If you go to a Chicago school, you only need to rip up your life once.
4.  I'm unsure at how much that 40 spots in the rankings really matter after the first job.  No doubt, it helps with OCI, although of course Kent gets more Chicago firms interviewing than a normal T2 school purely because of its location.

For me, when I applied to schools the first time (2002), I applied all over the place even though I wanted to settle down in Chicago.  Then I asked myself: "was the marginal increase in ranking really worth spending 3 years of my life still far away from my family?  (that's 5% or so)", and the answer was no.  That's why this cycle I applied only to Chicago schools.  My belief is that you should go where you want to be and then find something to do there.

My wife would be happy either place though I think we would be slightly happier in Chicago because we wouldn't have to change our lives around too much after we move (your number 3).  As part of your number 4 comment, what does OCI mean?

OCI => On-campus Interviews

Kent/Iowa have similar OCI numbers Loyola slightly ahead of both for Chicago law firms.  Iowa blows away Kent/Loyola for non-chicago law firms.  However, I want to work in Chicago.  Also looking at Ciolli report, if you agree with his methodology, Iowa is very strong in region.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: CAN"T DECIDE!!!!
« on: April 11, 2006, 09:57:01 AM »
Well, I think that we're in slightly similar situations (i.e. moving to be close to family).  I would say this:

1.  Would your wife be happier in Chicago or Iowa?
2.  See #1
3.  Also, if you go to Iowa and then move to Chicago to work, you bascially have to rip up both your lives twice.  You'd have to find a new place, your wife would have to find another job, etc.  If you go to a Chicago school, you only need to rip up your life once.
4.  I'm unsure at how much that 40 spots in the rankings really matter after the first job.  No doubt, it helps with OCI, although of course Kent gets more Chicago firms interviewing than a normal T2 school purely because of its location.

For me, when I applied to schools the first time (2002), I applied all over the place even though I wanted to settle down in Chicago.  Then I asked myself: "was the marginal increase in ranking really worth spending 3 years of my life still far away from my family?  (that's 5% or so)", and the answer was no.  That's why this cycle I applied only to Chicago schools.  My belief is that you should go where you want to be and then find something to do there.

My wife would be happy either place though I think we would be slightly happier in Chicago because we wouldn't have to change our lives around too much after we move (your number 3).  As part of your number 4 comment, what does OCI mean?

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