And while I see the value of (most) gay rights strategies as securing temporary toeholds in society for some gays and lesbians, I am more interested, long term, in busting the whole thing up.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "busting the whole thing up"? My point of contention with H4CS is that he/she/it made it sound like they were arguing for the removal of ALL social mores surrounding sexuality. In other words, that society should have no difference in its approval of promiscuity vs. monogamy, safe sex vs. irresponsible practice, healthy personal boundaries vs. acting out, etc. I simply don't believe that such a position is wise, nor that it is a prerequisite for gay rights or acceptance. I'm talking about certain values that are shared by most homosexuals... yet it seems like I'm being attacked and called a bigot for it, and it's simply not right.
***EDIT*** On reflection, maybe this is less a political thing and more an age/generational thing. I'm in my mid-30's with a family today, whereas I get the impression that H4CS is a recent undergrad. When I was in my early-20's, I looked at monogamy as a "frumpy" choice for people who were "uptight", I didn't see the big deal if I had sex without protection "only once in a awhile", and I could act out a bit at parties. As I got older I started seeing those notions as being childish, that there is some wisdom to structures and values.