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Incoming 1Ls / Re: LEEWS, Delaney, or "Getting to Maybe"?
« on: June 23, 2005, 03:29:49 PM »
That's not what happened at all. I was a member of the board at that time and remember the incident very well. The girl thought she could read the posts on the board and "get" the program without reading the book. Which is pretty lazy. And then she freaked out and starting posting something weird like "I need to delete my membership, this board is scaring me." It was weird. The girl wasn't "kicked out." She posted that she wanted to delete her membership and didn't know how. He deleted the membership for her as she wanted. When you have a group membership on Yahoo, it clearly has something at the top of the page which allows you to edit your membership and delete yourself from a group. The board is for people who have read the book and are prepping which mostly consists of doing hypos and the E&Es. Not for people hoping to pick something up. I don't know what was so weird about a bunch of pre1Ls doing hypos and going over points of the law that freaked the girl out. She was going to see the same d.a.m.n. things when she started law school.

Either way, I think she should have look around and maybe PM someone on the board. Or maybe contact AF privately. The girl came on this board and admitted that she phrased her post wrong. I think if she had clearly stated what she wanted then everything would have been fine. But this board seems to be a more appropriate place for asking "what type of books do I need" type of questions. The PLS board states on the opening page that it's for people who have read or are reading the book and are doing the program. That seems fair enough.

Amen.... did you guys hear the story of when someone on his yahoo group asked if she actually neede to "buy" the PLSII books or not? AF completely chastised her and booted her from the group. No, he's totally altruistic. Ha.
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Fair enough, I'll admit I'm not a member of that group, but heard about it from a third party who had been there (and probably has some issues with either AF or PLS in general). In any case, I was just making a point that AF is not just in it to be a "nice guy", but rather he's out here to make money. Not that there's anything wrong with that, that is after all the reason many of us are going to law school.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: OFFICIAL "I am going to ______ in the Fall" Thread
« on: June 23, 2005, 01:47:52 PM »
I've mentioned it on other threads as well, but for the sake of being official

The Ohio State University (Moritz College of Law)!
Geesh, its gonna suck being a die-hard Hoosier fan at OSU.. oh well.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: LEEWS, Delaney, or "Getting to Maybe"?
« on: June 23, 2005, 01:04:38 PM »
I have already purchased Getting to Maybe.  I don't want to buy all three, so I'm wondering if I should buy LEEWS or Delaney's "How to Do Your Best on Law School Exams."  I think I'll post this on the Students and Graduates Board also.
Ultimately, there is one way to handle law school exams. All involve spotting key facts, identifying and applying rules, considering all possible arguments both for and against competing positions, and articulating them in some logical fashion.  Each book merely gives there take, and suggests strategies that SOME have found helpful, but to suggest that one is “better” than the other implies one has tried all of them, and has found only one to be useful–or even one is most useful.
Atticus Falcon has suggested that LEEWS and Delaney are better, in his view. He is one attorney, one former law student, one (highly condescending and bitter) person, so take his opinion as one opinion in the thousands that are out there.
. (Incidentally, it would not be unreasonable to assume that he has received some kickbacks from both authors–Martha Stewart isn’t the only person to discovery the benefits of “Synergy!” The love gush directed to these two authors is a bit much in PLSII.)

I have found Delaney to write with great clarity and depth, so I’d put in my vote for him. Many, many people have taken the LEEWS course and have found it to be useless for everything except lightening one’s wallet.
it seems that AF is a highly altruistic person.  he has a yahoo group that is free for anyone AND he gives advice on that group.  he gets on benefit large enough for him to do this, but he does it anyway.  maybe if profs taught ls then he wouldnt be so bitter.

Does Tom Cruise gives free interviews because he is a nice and altruistic guy or does he do it to promote his movies (and hence his career and money-earning potential)?  AF isn't altruistic enough to give away his book obviously; his time is given freely in service of book sales. Incidentally, Randall Terry gives a lot of his time in the service of causes, but whether it is done for altruistic, or even helpful, purposes is questionable.
Amen.... did you guys hear the story of when someone on his yahoo group asked if she actually neede to "buy" the PLSII books or not? AF completely chastised her and booted her from the group. No, he's totally altruistic. Ha.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: New Basement Apartment - PO Box?
« on: June 23, 2005, 12:51:25 PM »
From an employers standpoint, I doubt it would make much difference one way or another. In fact, with such a variety of living arrangements, I'm sure its a lot more common than you'd think, and the law firms or other potential employers might note your good sense in getting a reliable mail situation set up. Or, you could be right. But I think its a good idea to get the PO box, as long as its not costing you an arm and a leg.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Just Read Turow's One L
« on: June 21, 2005, 08:01:05 AM »
I just finished rereading the Iliad, and I think after I'm done with the Odyssey I'm going to go onto Tolstoy or maybe a little Vonnegut... I think it'll prepare me as much as any of the so called "how to succeed" books will. And I won't have spent money and a bunch of time this summer when I'll have to figure out what works beset for when I get there anyways. Just my 2 cents.

which translation of homer?  i think fagles does an amazing job
The Lattimore translation. I think the last time I read it it was fagles, can't remember.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Just Read Turow's One L
« on: June 20, 2005, 12:48:36 PM »
I just finished rereading the Iliad, and I think after I'm done with the Odyssey I'm going to go onto Tolstoy or maybe a little Vonnegut... I think it'll prepare me as much as any of the so called "how to succeed" books will. And I won't have spent money and a bunch of time this summer when I'll have to figure out what works beset for when I get there anyways. Just my 2 cents.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: LEEWS, Delaney, or "Getting to Maybe"?
« on: June 20, 2005, 10:47:22 AM »
well PLS says that delaney and leews are the best and one should do both

Well gee, if PLS says it, it must be true. I'm sure a lot of people are getting something out of PLS.. but those have got to be the most stuck up people, at least some of them. I'm about to start LS, and don't pretend to know any of the answers about whats the "best way" to do anything, at least not yet. But I work for a law firm, and i've spoken to a ton of attorneys, and here's the one thing I've learned:
There is no "one" best way to do it. The whole trick is figuring out what works best for you. Maybe the tips in some of these books will help you, maybe they'll not but help someone else. The problem with the PLS people is that they think that there is one way and one way only to prepare for and succeed in law school. That's complete bull.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Laptop/PDA/Cell Phone ALL IN ONE?
« on: June 20, 2005, 10:40:38 AM »
If its a new laptop and a new PDA they should be able to link together without a hitch, you may need a 3rd party software program like Intellisync to get them to link properly, but that's pretty simple. I've seen some of the new PDA/cellphone combos, they're pretty sweet.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: anyone else super lazy
« on: June 20, 2005, 09:15:02 AM »
I know there are some people in UG that make good grades naturally, and they'll still have to study tons in LS. I work really hard and study a lot for good grades in UG.. I hope that doesn't mean I'll be one of those that freaks out and bombs in LS. I get stressed out and really care about what grades I receive.

the profile of a future gunner

Wow, that's harsh. I'd say that profile could go either way. There are lots of successful LS students that cared about grades and were in no way gunners. There are actual gunners, and then there are just students with good grades that the unsuccessful students call gunners. Big Difference. I was lazy in UG as well, but I've stepped it up in other aspects of my life. I'm excited and ready to start LS, I hope that the work ethic I've built up in the private sector can be transferred over.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Best Laptop for Law School?
« on: June 17, 2005, 12:15:22 PM »
I just got my Dell Inspiron 2200 yesterday. Unfortunately, when I turned it on, there was a 2 inch vertical white line down the left hand side of the monitor, completely obliterating anything that was supposed to show up on the monitor in that area!

I lifted the computer to get the serial number info off the bottom, and when I put it back down, the line was gone. Since then, it has shown up 3 more times when turning on the computer, but all I need to do is move the screen a bit and it goes away. The last few times I turned it on, it wasn't there any more.

I guess I'll still call Tech support anyway, just to let them know about it. I doubt they'll do much if it has stopped happening, though.

I can see it now - just as I'm trying to finish up an exam, a quarter of my screen will blank out. That'll be great!

I had a similar situation with my inspirion. It worked great for the first week, then shut down and wouldn't come back on. Faulty motherboard, they sent a repair-tech guy to my work, and in 30 minutes he replaced it and its worked amazingly ever since (I've now had it since March). All in all, I can't complain, and Dell's tech support was really good the one time I needed it.

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