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funny thing is that they ALL are bad...at least thats what  people think ..who knows if they are..and bar passage rates cant be used a  guide..that just means some schools took in better students to begin with..it says nothing about the quality of the school..cause if harvard students went to whittier and then they  had a high pass rate..would whittier then all sudden be considered a better school even though nothing about the school changed...the rankings and reputation assessments are a scam...

Well I think attrition rate also says a lot about the quality of the school & how happy the students are there. Chapman has the lowest attrition rate of any tier 4 in CA. I think that says about about the school.

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one reason to avoid whittier at all costs; 30% of first yr class forced to fail.  im not saying you'd end up in the 30%, just that you may never know.  And of the 70% who do go on to 2nd yr, only 30% pass the bar.  something is seriously wrong with that school. i doubt the students are that dumb

Great point!

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My thoughts on Whittier:

I didn't like the campus. It felt/looked like a high school more than a law school. The law library is big and spacious however.

It seems likemost Whittier grads get jobs in the public sector (DAs office/Public Defender's office). I don't know what the job opportunities are like for Whittier grad in law firms...from Chapman's stats it seems like the majority of the chapman grads work in the private sector (sometihng like 66%) so I'd be a little worried that the private sector jobs would be taken by Chapman grads.

I did a review on Chapman v. Whittier here: http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,55394.0.html

Check it out & let me know if you have any questions. :)

Generally I would say Whittier over Western State, Chapman over Whitter.

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Law school is law school.  The explanation you've given in your question is about as good as any 2 or 3L will likely be able to give you.  What you seem to want to know is what everyone has to experience and/or figure out on their own.

The one thing I'll suggest since you brought it up is this:  you will not be "breezing through" anything anymore.  The worst mistake you can make is underestimating what you need to do to succeed.  Many people who went out every Thursday and Friday night in my class were the ones heard complaining that they didn't do as well as they'd like.  Yes, you have to balance everything, but law school IS NOT undergrad.

You seem to have taken that advice to heart, though, so I'm sure the warning is unnecessary. 


Agreed. But (disclaimer - I'm not in law school yet) I've also heard that overloading yourself with studying doesn't improve your grades also. Especially since a lot of people say there isn't a relationship between the amount of studying one does & how well they do in law school. You need to find a middle ground betwen partying every night & spending every minute of the day studying.

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key is to find used.  Most graduating students will look to unload them after they no longer have use for them.

Agreed. And also to find which ones are the most helpful for which subjects. A law student was telling me that she used E&E for torts but a commercial outline was more helpful for property. So don't buy E&E for all subjects. Talk to the 2Ls and 3Ls at your school and find out which study aids are best for which subjects.

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Lawyers I worked with said buy the study aids even if the teachers recommend against it.

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My friend and I were wondering about this:  How do you pronounce Boalt?

Is it like a "BOLT" of lightning or is it two syllables as in "BO-AHLT"?

The first one. Bolt.

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Don't these red states feel their pockets hurting!?


Thomas Frank wrote an amazing book called What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America which explains why poor people from the Midwest vote republican even though it hurts them financially. It's a great book. I really recommend it.
 


Oh, that sounds good! Thanks for the heads up.

Cosign I've been wondering why poor midwesterners and latinos vote Republican myself. It boggles the mind. I always thought it was pride and not wanting to take handouts.

Thomas Frank gives several reasons for why poor southerners vote against their financial interests. Some of these reasons include religion (they vote republican because they don't like abortion, gay marriage) and not being able to relate to the "latte drinking, mercedes benz driving, tree hugging" liberals (Frank's words not mine). He gives several other reasons as well. He uses the state of Kansas as an example or representation of the cultural change that has occurred in many southern states. It's a good book with some very interesting theories.

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Don't these red states feel their pockets hurting!?


Thomas Frank wrote an amazing book called What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America which explains why poor people from the Midwest vote republican even though it hurts them financially. It's a great book. I really recommend it.
 

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Rap Music
« on: July 11, 2006, 02:28:35 PM »
Agreed. I do think that the radio stations are partly to blame. However, many rappers (and musicians in general) tend to make music that will make them the most $$$. They make the desicion to make the music that will get the most air play and therefore the most money. Radio stations control what's being played on the radio so they are partly to blame but musicians shouldn't always be chasing the money.

Why not? Us law students are doing the same thing by selling out to BIGLAW. It is the same concept. I know people who work for Phillip Morris and RJ Reynolds for the money yet detest the smoking epidemic.  We need to hold more than rappers accountable if we want to base it on moral integrity.

I agree that it's not only musicians who chase the money. Some lawyers, doctors & other professionals do the same thing. And I think it's horrible. However, we can agree that music (especially music that is played on the radio) is heard by millions of Americans daily & it touches/effects more people than most lawyers or doctors ever will. For that reason, musicians especially need to be held accountable for the music they make.

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