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Current Law Students / Federal Income Tax and other 2L Study Aids, Help
« on: August 01, 2005, 09:03:31 PM »
I am taking Federal Income Tax this fall as a pre-req for a class that I am taking in the spring.  Anyway, math is not my strong suit so I'm assuming Accounting or anything tax related won't be either.  I want to get a tax study book early and read before class starts so it'll be a fair fight between me and the Econ and Accounting majors, I'm imagining, are in my class. 

Can anyone recomend a good Federal Income Tax study aid?  And while I'm at it, what about:

Real Property Security
Debtor/Creditor (Bankruptcy)
Banking Law
Secured Transactions
Law & Economics
Administrative Law

There's a lot on 1L study guide recomendations but I didn't see a whole lot for upper level classes.  I'm really looking to see if there is a particular book etc... that everyone loves or hates.  *If you're wondering about my class load we register for a year at a time and if I see a good deal on a recomended book I'd like to go ahead and buy it, so I've listed most of my fall and spring classes. 

Thanks in advance,

Current Law Students / Re: Ladies- where are you suit shopping?
« on: July 31, 2005, 04:55:13 PM »
I can't speak for everywhere but at my school, Wake Forest, we all pretty much wear what we want.  This could be nice slacks and sweaters or it could be jeans, a T-shirt and flip-flops.  The best thing to do is find out from someone who is already a student at the school where you will be attending.  I think books like One-L and the Paper Chase give people the impression that they should all wear dress pants and blazers but I think the world has changed a lot in 30 years, or at least it's pretty casual at Wake.


Current Law Students / Re: Computer options
« on: July 30, 2005, 02:36:02 PM »
The secureexam software that we use is a huge memory hog.  If your school offers it and you plan on taking exams on your laptop, check with your school Information Technology department for the requirements to run their exam software and make sure you have them. 

Westlaw and Lexis are both online programs, you don't need to install anything.

I loved the Black Letter Series Outlines, very helpful for getting the ....Black Letter Law,  ;D

Current Law Students / Re: Book Editions?
« on: July 30, 2005, 02:15:42 PM »
I actually had to buy Kaplan 5th ed. last year and the prof told us that the 5th edition is soooo different that we couldn't use an older edition.  I think sometimes they add a case, fix typos and throw in an essay and sometimes they overhaul the book.  Best way to find out is to ask the prof and see if they think buying an old edition is a good or bad idea.  They aren't completely unsympathetic to our money woes.

Current Law Students / Re: What's Your 1L Cirriculum?
« on: July 30, 2005, 02:11:15 PM »
Does anyone attend a school that requires a clinic?

Current Law Students / Re: What's Your 1L Cirriculum?
« on: July 30, 2005, 02:10:38 PM »
Wake Forest

1L (Fall)
Contracts I - 3
Civ Pro I - 3
Criminal Law - 3
Torts - 4
Legal Research and Writing I - 0(totaled after spring)

1L (Spring)
Contracts II - 3
Civ Pro II - 3
Con Law I - 3
Property - 4
Legal Research and Writing II - 3 (for the whole year)

2L year (either semester)
Legal Research and Writing III
Legislation and Administrative Law

2L or 3L (before you graduate)
Con Law II
Professional Responsibility

We also have to take a class that fulfills an upperlevel writing requirement.

Current Law Students / Re: Bar Review Courses
« on: July 30, 2005, 01:42:14 PM »
You can enroll but you don't take a class until after you graduate.  We were informed that the 3Ls who locked in their Barbri rate in their 1L year payed $300 less than the 3Ls who were just signing up.  You also get some free stuff like a study book and a Nalgene.  The PMBR, I can't remember what the savings was supposed to be but they also give you free stuff like some study guides. 

It's really up to you.  If you are sure that you are going to use Barbri etc.. and you have the money, (it was 50 for PMBR, I can't remember what it was for Barbri)then go ahead and pay, get your free loot, and save yourself some money in 3 years.  We had until October or November (can't remember) to decide if we wanted to put a down payment.  The reps had tables set up in the meantime.  If you still have questions, ask the reps at your school, they're there to help you.  Congratulations on your acceptance and good luck with school.


Wake Forest U / Re: Fall 2005
« on: July 30, 2005, 12:10:06 AM »
Hey I'm a 2L at Wake, to answer your question from nearly 3 months ago, rugbylaw. (if you're still there...)  The profs are great at Wake or if they aren't they're usually funny and if they aren't I'm not going to slander the few that I didn't enjoy, no wait libel, no wait, what do they teach us at that school... Anyway, I went to a large undergrad so I have enjoyed small private Wake. The students, faculty and staff are very friendly and helpful.

Post grad I think a lot of people stay in NC, go to ATL, DC or VA.  I'm sure there are people who escape the region but for the most part Wake is a regional school. 

I don't know anything about Charlotte placement but I'm sure it's strong.  Might I recomend the free lawyer search site, you can search by city and then school and get an idea of placement and firm type. I got 374 of 3306 attys in Charlotte graduated from Wake (this isn't all the attys in Charlotte, just all the attys that are listed in the Martindale database, most in house and gov't don't get listed.)  So even though Wake is a small private school we corner around 10 percent of the Charlotte job market.  UNC had about twice that, around 700.  Duke only had around 160. I don't plan on staying in NC so I ignored all of the job postings for NC but they were the majority. 

I don't regret going to Wake, I have really enjoyed my experience so far and I could have been paying 4 grand in state by this point.  I agree with 3Ldude, if your free ride is a tier 1 particularly UNC (for Charlotte job prospects), or even tier 2 and in region, then go there.  If not, then come to Wake, you won't regret it. 

Current Law Students / Re: "Law In A Flash" Cards
« on: July 29, 2005, 11:20:46 AM »
Also keep in mind that Aspen prints the Flashcards and Aspen also prints Emanuels.  I found identical short answer questions in Emanuels as were in my flashcards.  Definitely don't buy both because they will be redundant. 

On the plus side, I found the Torts cards most helpful and the Contracts least helpful.  I had Torts, Contracts and Civ Pro.  The little memory aids they give you are helpful, I still remember the memory aid for International Shoe and Service(Service involved the 7 Dwarfs)  If you plan on studying with a study group for exams they break the monotony of reading outlines and at least you can socialize and learn somthing at the same time.  I guess it depends on the prof if they are helpful or not and my Torts prof didn't cover any intentional Torts so about 1/4 of the deck was useless. 

If you are looking to save money there were a few 2Ls selling the flashcards at the end of the semesters, you may be able to get last years version for a discount price from an upper level student but you probably won't be able to get 12 sets.

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