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It burned down when the staff came under siege by the feds a few years back.

(man that was low)

that's the other thing. the democrats might get back in power again, lay siege to baylor and set it on fire. or try to gerrymander it into a blue zone.

Technically already in a blue zone. Waco is located on one of those rare patches of Texas dirt: a congressional district represented by a well-liked, multiply-re-elected DEMOCRAT named Chet Edwards. Isn't that bizarre??

I would like to point out that Baylor has fallen to 9th place in Princeton Review's "Heritage Foundation" rankings. My liberal friends and I are doing our level best to ensure that it falls off that particular listing completely by 2007. We have yet to be drawn and quartered, or even sanctioned and threatened with loss of scholarship $$$, for vocally supporting gay marriage and the right to choose. It's not as oppressive as is popularly believed. We even have *gasp* GAY students... out and proud, and doing their part to bring tolerance to every corner of the universe.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Baylor or University of Utah
« on: May 01, 2006, 09:07:29 AM »
My God, did that get blown out of proportion....  ::)

Yeah, it was an abuse of office. Yeah, it was incredibly disrespectful of the student body. Yeah, it was an indication that the Dean may be a bit out of touch. OK, a LOT out of touch. But as an unaffected student at what is acknowledged to be THE most competitive law school in the country, just let me say....

I was more than happy to see my classmates waste their time getting bent out of shape during exam week. Remember that exam grades are less dependant on your brilliance, and more dependant on everyone else sucking.  :-* This might be a good quarter.

Law School Admissions / Re: Do I have to double Major?
« on: May 01, 2006, 09:01:47 AM »
Don't limit yourself to campus activities. If you have community projects that mean something to you (hospice, habitat for humanity, scouts, Big Brothers/Sisters, etc.), that is just as valuable as President of XXX, and shows a dedication to community. But I would heed the advice of previous posters and put more into bringing your GPA up right now. Your major is considered a "soft" one, and it won't get the kind of leniency that a 3.7ish will in hard sciences. As for your LSAT, I think you probably know if you've been here for a while that a consistent score on practice LSATS, for whatever reason, tend to be around 5 points lower on the real thing (anyone ever figure out why? Stress?). If fast-tracking your degree is causing you to be less focused on quality because you're just trying to get done ASAP, then slow down. It'll hurt you. M2CW.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Baylor Open House
« on: December 16, 2005, 06:50:34 AM »
Your schedule will vary. Some days you will have to be in by 8AM, other days your first class may not start until 11:45. They try to set up first year schedules so that there is a break between every class. If you start in the Spring (and I think the Summer, too), then the second semester is the roughest because it's 16 hours and the third is easiest because it's only 12. I think the Fall starters have a more evenly-divided first year, but I'm not sure. After that, and aside from Practice Court, you will make your own schedule.

I do know one woman who commutes from Round Rock... or at least DID until she hit Practice Court. I would definitely recommend planning to actually move to Waco for those 6 months. She also has a 2-yr-old daughter, and it was hard on her initially, but you're really just going to wind up being a hazard on the road if you try to make the commute during that period. Practice Court is like a medical internship, and the hours are awful. The Lord of Darkness (Prof PC) has the discretion to schedule class for 5AM if he wants to. The point is to simulate actual trial experience, so being told to amend petitions or write memos overnight is very common, and there's no mercy for the exhausted. The other reason to move at that time is that you will have a partner to whom you will have a responsibility to share the workload, and I can almost promise you that your partner won't live in Austin! There really is NO WAY you could do the commute and get through the third year. You CAN fail Practice Court, and how awful would it be to make it that far? If you absolutely will not move away from your family for at least 6 months, then don't go to Baylor. This should be the deal breaker. There's no point to a scholarship if you can't make it through the program.

I live in Killeen. I don't know about the traffic from Austin, but from Belton to Waco it's not bad. It takes us about an hour (there's another student here, so we carpool). I will also be moving to Waco for Practice Court.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Baylor Open House
« on: December 14, 2005, 06:57:49 PM »
Really, the toughest thing at Baylor (and I think most Bayloreans would agree with me) is simply the PACE. Because of our quarter system, we have exams every 10 1/2 weeks, but the quarter system doesn't mean that you cover less material. A 1L contracts class is a 1L contracts class wherever you go, we just get about a month less time to digest it. If you start to slide, even a little, it's hard to catch up. Not impossible, but hard. I didn't think I'd survive my first year, but I'm used to the pace now. Of course, I'm only speaking from my own experience, and I am NOT by any stretch of the imagination one of those legal geniuses. This stuff takes work for me. The next toughest thing about Baylor is how much of the curriculum is required, so you wind up taking classes you wouldn't in a MILLION years take voluntarily, like Federal Income Taxation and Business Organizations. I have to say, though, that I'm glad that FedTax was required because I found not only an interest, but an aptitude. Who knew? I had NO legal experience before this. I don't think that prior pegal experience really helps, though. One of my closest friends was a paralegal for three years before law school, and she has to work as hard as I do, while another friend who majored in Math just breathes and gets fabulous grades. It all really just depends. Remember that law school grades all come out of one single exam at the end of every class, so a lot of exam success really depends more on your ability to spot issues and articulate rules while pressured for time. The fact that you took a Constitutional Law class in undergrad (this is the generalized "you", not you in particular) is NOT going to help you here.Knowing legal theory is great, but it's not going to replace the 100 UCC sections you had to memorize because the exam is closed-book! Exams take so many skills that you will probably be ahead in some areas and struggle in others. There is one universal fatality, though: cockiness. If you're prepared to struggle, then you don't get knocked off your feet. I thought that because I was an older student with a prior career and "life experience", that I would have an edge. It was a very dull edge.  :-\

As for the mommy thing, it's manageable. I have three kids and commute over 150 miles a day, but I still make it to their concerts and awards ceremonies and stuff. I'm tired a lot, but I catch up on weekends. If you don't let yourself get sucked into the social life and actually use the time between classes to get your work done, you really can take at least one day of the weekend off completely. Sometimes I get the whole weekend.  ;D It really goes up and down, though. There will be times when you have no time. Moot Court participation is mandatory, and that sucks away 2-3 weeks of your life. Practice Court the third year is all-consuming. If you join Law Review or the Moot Court team, that's more time. Everything in between is okay.

As for the scholarship thing, I have a full-ride, too. I think the ease of keeping it really depends on the class you enter with. The class that just started this Fall is fierce, because there are more people on scholarship than can actually keep their scholarship. In my class, there were only a handful of us, so it wasn't so bad. I despaired the first quarter because I thought I'd lose it, but I pulled it out of the fire the second quarter, and am still doing well so far for the third quarter (not all grades are in yet). I'm pretty sure I'll keep it. The first three quarters are the toughest. If you make it, then you'll be fine at least through the second year. Those are the easy classes. And if you bring it up high enough, then a bad grade in Practice Court the third year won't bring your GPA down far enough to lose it.

OK, that's enough. Good luck making a decision!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Baylor($) or Texas
« on: November 19, 2005, 08:44:37 AM »
I wonder if the heavy emphasis on the practice of law results in a deficiency in the academic study of it.

The idea that the black-letter and the philosophy of the law are separate entities is a common myth. There is no war between the practical and the academic. One of my favorites is this notion that Baylor is a three-year Bar prep course but that it won't teach you to "think like a lawyer."  ::) You can't pass the Bar if you can't think like a lawyer. Frankly, if all you ever do is read cases and the professor never points out WHY you're reading cases, it would be very easy to miss the point. The LAW is in those cases! As lawyers, we don't get to walk into a courtroom and wax philosphical. You can't parse the finer points of statutory construction if you don't know how the courts have interpreted the language in the past. You need to do more than memorize legal formulae to be a good lawyer. Trust me... the average Baylor students probably spends 60 hours a week between classes and studying and writing, and it feels pretty damn academic.

Baylor is GPA-happy,so even with a 165, Baylor is not a safety. Their current medians are 3.72/163. ;)

General Off-Topic Board / Re: seckshul frustration roll call
« on: September 29, 2005, 09:00:20 PM »
sounds like a blast

night won't be starting until 9-ish.

I drew the 6 PM bailiff slot for the moot court competition.

Have you bailiffed for any other rounds? I have a second go tomorrow. Sure hope it goes better than the first. This experience better get better. Right now it just feels like being set on fire while simultaneously being dragged over broken glass. Maybe you'll get to be my bailiff tomorrow.... Good stuff.  :-\

Law School Admissions / Re: University of Texas Law
« on: September 16, 2005, 03:54:46 PM »
Yes, that's me. The people around here are obnoxiously conservative.
I did not choose this university out of ... well, choice. I already lived in this town, so it was just out of convenience. I think I'm the only liberal that's not faculty.

OMG, can't believe I missed this. Sorry for reviving a dead thread, but Veggie- you are NOT the only liberal here. There are tons of us. Some are closet liberals, yes, and there certainly are overly-enthusiastic conservatives, but liberalism is alive and well is Baylor. As for the faculty, my understanding (and experience) is that there is only one conservative: Prof LARC I. His dog's name is Scalia. Otherwise, it's all liberal.... even Prof. K. Don't let him fool you.  ;)

Incoming 1Ls / Re: 1L's: What do you think of law school?
« on: September 16, 2005, 03:45:00 PM »

I hope that Evan was able to talk you out of your tree a little bit, though comfort from a super-genius is cold comfort at times. It IS tough, and I thought I was going to lose my mind the first quarter. I'm married with three kids, too, and I commute an hour and a half one way each day. Believe it or not, it does get better. The workload doesn't get lighter (actually, next quarter is going to be crushing), but your ability will rise to match. Right now, it takes forever to brief the cases, and the professors don't let the details slide, and they're really not into patting you on the head and telling you you're doing a good job when you only scratch the surface of the case. Not only that, but the class is so small that they KNOW you don't get it, since you can't sit in the back in relative anonymity like you could in bigger schools. The good news is that whether or not you THINK you do or don't get something, the professor is bound to give you feedback sooner or later. Professor Contracts and Professor CivPro are both tough taskmasters, but you WILL learn. You need to know, if you don't already, that your class is top-heavy on the scholarships. MANY of your classmates will lose them. But you won't, because the absolute, number one, most important thing you can do: BE COOL. Seriously. I am the queen of panic, and I worked myself into the ground, and I did not make any headway on my grades until I learned to relax a little bit. Trust myself a bit more. I don't let the professors bully me into confusion. THAT is the true test. You'll be ok. Honestly, you may never like it here. I still don't 99% of the time. But I know I'm tougher for it, and I came to a litigation school because I'm going to be a litigator, and in the three quarters since I've been here I can guarantee you that if you put me up against a UT 2L, I will chew 'em up and spit 'em out. (Sorry, Eliza... Crow). There's a method to the madness, and you'll be better for it. In a couple of weeks, you'll bailiff for the Moot Court, and you will be amazed at the performances you see, but each of the speakers will be at the end of their 1L year. It's pretty damn impressive. You'll be one of us, too.  ;)

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