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Current Law Students / Re: Accepted for Spring 07, Need advice
« on: March 23, 2006, 06:54:45 AM »
Actually, the first sentence of his post says he was admitted for spring, waitlisted for fall. Otherwise... carry on!

Current Law Students / Re: Accepted for Spring 07, Need advice
« on: March 22, 2006, 06:55:26 PM »
The fact that you've been accepted for spring and that you're in a "primo" trial advocacy programs tell me that you're going to a law school that begins with "B" and ends with, "God help me." You can't prepare. Enjoy your freedom while it lasts. You could work on your flexibility- makes it easier to grab your ankles when the time comes. Oh, and I am going to have to disagree with Mr. Durden. It is true that you WILL get the experience whether you want it or not, but wouldn't you rather get it sooner than later? They're so much nicer to you in undergrad. I bless my undergrad for requiring 2 semesters of public speaking. It may be the only real leg up you can get around here.

Just some advice from your friendly neighborhood BEAR.  ;D

Current Law Students / Love the law?!?!?
« on: March 21, 2006, 12:42:50 PM »
OK, I'm sick of this. I hear people around me all the time saying, "I hate law school, but I love the law." What the F*** does that mean, exactly?? Back in the first year, I figured that it would become clear to me. Well, I'm at the end of 2L, and I still don't have a clue. I HATE law school. I have no idea how I feel about the law in general. Someone please explain this to me. :-\

Current Law Students / Re: Putting "Moot Court" on Resume?
« on: March 18, 2006, 04:35:35 PM »
At my school, participation in a school-wide Moot Court competition is compulsory, so it doesn't belong on a resume unless you ranked well individually or as a team. Acceptance to, and participation on, the school team in competitions involving other schools is what employers are actually looking for. Remember that your resume reflects your skills and accomplishments. I agree with the poster who said that placing "moot court" on your resume without actually excelling in some way is equal to placing "law review" on your resume simply because you attempted to write on, but failed. The only reason employers are interested in moot court experience is if they're looking for talented oral advocates. Those are the ones with blue ribbons, not participation medals.  ;)

Current Law Students / Re: Venue Question
« on: May 06, 2005, 07:02:31 PM »
I didn't have this case in CivPro, but this might help you:

How much?

Well, if you want to buy the latest version, I'm selling. PM me. ;D

$110 will include shipping. It's the new set w/ CDs and the workbook has not been written in.

Well, if you want to buy the latest version, I'm selling. PM me. ;D

E&E is actually more like a hornbook and nothing like an outline. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the brightest one in my class, and I really need some "plain English" assistance a great deal of the time. E&E is great for that. I have yet to meet a canned outline that I liked, however.. and I've even met one that was outright wrong! I'm not so confident as to second-guess the authors, but if you can't get a basic fact such as whether one party is a sibling or a spouse, that particular text is suspect. I found this in the Property Legalines keyed to Dukeminier. I've avoided it ever since. I'm already confused.  :P

Truthfully, it didn't give me anything too terrifically earth-shattering, and some of the advice I flat-out can't use! For instance, the LEEWS approach is about issue-spotting, and not every exam is an issue-spotting exam. The LEEWS program will tell you that you can adapt their approach to any sort of exam, but that isn't true. If the biggest question on your Contracts exam tells you to write a contract.... well, LEEWS won't help. If your Property exam asks you to write conveyances for X that will allow him to keep control of the property while he is alive, give immediate possessory rights upon his death to his son, give delayed possessory rights to his daughter until she graduates from law school, and provides a steady source of income for his niece, all while avoiding probate... LEEWS won't help. And if you have a professor that despises the issue-spotting approach to exam-taking so much that he will sink instructions into the last quarter of his exam instructing you NOT to discuss personal jurisdiction with regards to A or B... LEEWS will hurt you. That's just my take on it, so take it with a grain of salt... and a shot of tequila. Exams are over!!! ;D

Edited to add: The major exercise in the LEEWS program is a torts problem, and for good reason- I will TOTALLY use this approach for TORTS! I can't imagine a torts exam that is anything other than an issue-spotter, and the sheer mass of confusion that such an exam presents would make the approach worthwhile. So I mispoke when I said it wasn't useful... it's just not universally useful.

I probably wouldn't do LEEWS again. It's great for some people... it's great for some classes.... just didn't work for ME or my classes! At my school, they will literally crucify you for not using IRAC, so the many books that I got on how to take law school exams were a total waste of money, since they all claim to be revolutionary by turning IRAC on it's head. Law-in-a-Flash for Future Interests is an absolute MUST, no point in the set for Contracts. I really like Examples and Explanations, snd will probably always use them when they are available. I like to use them right before I start a new section, just to get the "big picture", and then again when I'm done with a section and outlining, just to make sure I'm clear. I also really like Crunchtime. I'll go to the coffee shop the day before the exam, go over the "Exam tips" section (all the tricks and pitfalls to look out for... saved my butt a few times!) and do all the exercises. Oh, and if your legal writing prof is utterly worthless (like mine), get "Legal Writing in Plain English" by Bryan A. Garner.

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