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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: USC Visit
« on: April 04, 2006, 03:07:22 PM »
After visiting SC and with the great scholarship offer I received, I am 99% going there.

Wow, they gave you a shitload of money. What did you do to get all that cash? Is that all scholarship or is it regular financial aid? Jealous...

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: USC Visit
« on: April 04, 2006, 01:09:04 PM »
Care to elaborate? Does that make it a better choice for people who are looking for top jobs, high salaries, etc.?

USC 25%tile/75%tile private salaries: $120k/$125k

UCLA 25%tile/75%tile private salaries: $75k/$125k

There's not much else to say. USC's network is famed and if you're sure you want big bucks, it's the place to go. There's lots of anecdotal evidence of USC alums hiring simply on the basis of an applicant being a fellow USC alum. USC is geared towards people who want biglaw jobs and high salaries. It's in a strong enough position where biglaw OCI is open -- anyone can interview with any firm, you don't need to show the firms your grades or resume unlike some other schools. I'd imagine UCLA is more rounded as far as careers people go into. More people go into public interest law out of UCLA.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: USC Visit
« on: April 04, 2006, 12:56:24 PM »
Oldhat or anyone else:
How does USC's networking compare to UCLA's within LA/SoCal

USC's network crushes UCLA's. Hands down.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: USC Visit
« on: April 04, 2006, 12:15:32 PM »
How far does that network extend?

What was the library like?

The network is unbeatable in Southern California, very strong in the rest of California and strong in the big cities in Arizona and Nevada. I work for a firm in Beverly Hills and all of the partners are USC Law alums and donors. They're immensely proud of their school. The "Trojan Nation" is like the mafia -- once you're in, you're a made man. However, I don't think the network has much reach in the Midwest or East, though.

The law building is pretty ugly, IMO. It's a fine example of 1970s Shoebox School architecture. The library is on the second floor. Nothing remarkable.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Good News for All of Us
« on: April 02, 2006, 03:39:44 PM »
I would suspect that it's because it's around time the baby boomers are getting ready to retire.  It's expected that starting with this yr, there will be more people retiring than moving into the work force.

This is the part where our greedy baby boomer parents destroy Medicare and pensions as they retire while demanding more tax cuts and costly prescriptions for their dry eye syndrome, right?

can you borrow a couple grand from your parents and pay them back once the loan checks arrive?

No, I've been on my own since I turned 18.

you're going to need $1 million dollars the day you move. don't get worried now...just kidding. i think other people here have answered your question.

Thanks for sharing.

USF is one of only two schools in the nation that publishes a maritime law journal. The other is Tulane, and I'm not sure if they're continuing to publish it after Katrina. USF has amazing study abroad opportunities -- they strongly encourage all their undergrads to go abroad and this culture of internationalism carries over to the university as a whole. Visit the school and talk to the people involved in international law and sit in on a class. It's a great school.

Another thing: San Francisco is an international metropolis. Davis, CA is a farm town.

There's know way of knowing and there's no point in worrying about it. You not admitted until you're admitted and you're not dinged until you're dinged.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: tuition and living expenses entirely out of loans??
« on: March 31, 2006, 12:57:59 PM »
Assuming a BIGLAW salary for five years, I can hopefully stick to this (via

Monthly Loan Payment: $2,609.93 
Number of Payments:  60

That's a pretty big assumption.

You'd better be sure as sh*t you want to do this, chief.

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