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Alrighty.  Seat deposits are due May 1st.  I am trying to decide once and for all if going to Widener part time is a wise financial decision.

My story:  I'm a civil engineer.  I stand to top out in my engineering field at about $85k, not adjusted for future inflation.  The sky is the limit if I am able to go out on my own in an entreprenurial venture and start my own engineering company someday.

My LSAT score is in the top 10% of those admitted to Widener.  So if you trust this as an academic indicator for LS success, I should do better than average compared to the other students at Widener.  I would be in the part time program, which is the only one in the region.  Therefore, I have no scholarship offers because they have the part time market wrapped up.  I have no option to go full time, or to move because of family obligations.

I don't have delusions of making a $100k starting salary.  However, I would hope to get to $150k (not adjusted for inflation) in about 10-15yrs.

My question is this...  Is Widener financially worth it to someone who could attain an mid-middle to upper-middle class lifestyle without a law degree?  Is it in the cards to get to that $150k goal?

Current Law Students / Re: Post-LS career plans?
« on: March 30, 2006, 06:50:11 PM »
Litigation because I want to do something new on every case and I like confrontation.


Construction law because I have a civil engineering background.


Health law because it is a growth industry.


Government because I like the 8-5.

Well, I got accepted but with no money.  It's down to Maryland and Widener part-time programs depending on how Maryland like what I had to say, and if I want to have a hellish commute to Baltimore.

I live 20 minutes from the school, they have a part time program, and there is a possibility (however remote) that I may be able to get some scholarship money.

Also, I'm 28, new father, married 3 years, planning to hold down a job, and go at night to the extended program.

All that said, I'm curious to hear any impressions or ramblings from those who are at Harrisburg now.

Is is what you expected as far as difficulty?
Is the brutal grading curve fact or fiction?

Eh, anything you have to say or have on your mind will be good to read.  If you want, include some personal things like what kind of student you were, if you're an over/under acheiver, if they offered you $, age, kids, part time, job, etc.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: LSAT study guides?
« on: September 26, 2006, 06:04:19 AM »
The powerscore series (logic games bible, etc.) is worth the money.  The practice test books put out by lsac are also essential.  These two are basically the gold standard.

That being said...  I practiced two weeks with the generic "Dr. Dave's LSAT prep book" and an LSAC test book and scored a 161.  I felt totally relaxed during the test.  When I went back for a second try after studying for two months with all the "right" materials, I scored a 158.  The second time around, I had reached into the low 170s on practice tests.  There is such a thing as over preparing and psyching yourself out to your own detriment.


Just wanted to say that you are awesome and you can do it!  As a mom to 3, I know my law school experience will be different than my classmates, but I have different tools than they do.  We won't approach studying the same way, but it will be okay, and it will work out, precisely BECAUSE I (and YOU) have priorities in order.  Once you have kids and spouse, they simply have to come first because they are they best part of life and the only thing that endures.  Good luck to you! 

What, I'm not awesome?  Please limit your encouragement to the original poster.

I'm in my 1st semester now and people without full time jobs urk me to death.  They are the defacto superstars in class due in no small part to their 45 extra free hours per week.  I'm finding that I only have time to just get the assignments and reading done and cases breifed.  Outlining and synthesizing the law as I go is somewhat out of the question.  I'm thinking of taking a day off work every three weeks or so just to play catchup.

I alluded to the impending situation at the bookstore to being like a "run on cabbage patch dolls."  The humor was totally lost on them.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: What car are you currently driving? POLL
« on: April 05, 2006, 06:47:45 PM »
I'll throw my hat in the ring for "most eclectic collection of redneck cars"...

2001 Dodge 3/4 ton diesel pickup (lifted)
1992 Range Rover Classic (lifted)
1984 Toyota 4runner (lifted)
1994 Chevy Camaro

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: In at Widener
« on: January 23, 2006, 06:55:47 PM »
Widener must have the evening division wrapped around their finger here in central PA, and know it.  My numbers were competitive in comparison to yours, and I got no grant offers.

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