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Current Law Students / Re: Number of Hours Devoted to Law School
« on: October 27, 2006, 05:06:33 AM »
12 hours of class per week + 12 hours Sat + 12 hours Sun + 4 hours sprinkled in randomly = 40 / week

40/7days = 5.714285714 hours per day.  Give or take.

Fair enough.  I'll save the practice exams until after thanksgiving.

I'm at the point in the semester where we get our main legal writing assignment.  My outlines are not up to date.  My practice exams are written in a Hemingwayesque format, meaning that the professors seem to want to see every point, no matter how painfully obvious.

I have to make time for outlining, practice exams, and the legal paper.  I think the days of formal case breifing are numbered.  Aside from being the class superstar when called on, there is really no incentive to knowing cases front to back.  The professor will cover any relevant points or developments in class discussion. Hopefully book breifing and skimming before class will carry the day.

Current Law Students / Re: The Paper Chase.
« on: October 15, 2006, 07:09:50 AM »
My prof excoriated the girl next to me for not speaking loud enough.  She walked all the way to the other end of the hall and yelled at the student to repeat herself, only louder, about 8 times.  Over and over again.  It was brutal.

I wish my professors would do that.  The delicate flowers in my class couldn't talk over a fly fart.  Some of the guys are just as bad.

Current Law Students / Re: Married and older students do better?
« on: September 29, 2006, 04:52:06 AM »
I think it helps overall to be married.  My wife takes care of all the domestic stuff which frees me to be law school guy.  In return, I remodeled our kitchen this past summer and spend every non-study minute with her.

Current Law Students / Re: What happens to graduates from 4th tier schools?
« on: September 23, 2006, 12:52:11 PM »
I dont have a problem with the money part of it. I'm a spoiled rich kid who wants to find something to do, other than shopping.
I thought students who graduate with a J.D. might be able to find a non-legal job. I posted this message originally to explore other career options for someone who graduated from Law School.

If this is the case, I don't see a problem.  You can always work for free and get financial outpatient care from mom and dad.

Current Law Students / Re: What happens to graduates from 4th tier schools?
« on: September 23, 2006, 08:46:08 AM »
I think you have to weigh a few things to decide what to do.
Can you make a decent living with the undergrad degree you have?
Are you going to be in serious debt after LS, or are you parent-funded?
Is money your motivator for LS, or are you going strictly for the education?
Have you ever had serious debt, like a house?  Many people right out of school cannot comprehend what 100k really is and what kind of monthly income it takes to make living expenses and loan payments.  My loan payment will likely be bigger than my house payment (but I have a cheap $120k house).

Personally, I have to be on a track grade-wise to have a decent shot at making 15k more per year than I do now (I'm part time at a 4th tier), to make LS worthwhile for me.  If it ever looks like that will not be the case, there is no shame in cutting my losses and backing out with 18 thousand in debt as opposed to 80 thousand.

I would talk to my career services and financial aid reps at the school to determine my prospects and debt load.  Career svcs will probably be worthless, but maybe not.  I'd also call lawyers in the area to get their take on your situation.  These are the people to which you will be sending applications, and the best source for finding out your hirablility.

Current Law Students / Re: question for evening students
« on: September 23, 2006, 07:17:54 AM »
No, you will in all likelihood NOT be allowed to drop a class. 

I completely disagree.  There are several in my PT section who have dropped Civil Procedure.  Of course, if you take 3 out of 4 classes consistently, you will have to go an extra year.  Why are you asking on a random internet message board instead of giving the dean of students a call?

Current Law Students / Re: briefing in technicolor? hmm...
« on: August 22, 2006, 04:42:33 AM »
With my oh so limited experience I've found that highliting and writing all over the case book in code as well as extremely short briefs have helped me grasp the essentials of each case.  I've seen some of my classmates with 3 page briefs.  That is ridiculous as I'm sure they are basically copying the whole case over again.  I've also seen some try book-briefing right away and not really understanding what the case is all about.

I don't think book briefing alone would do it for me, at least at this point.  And case briefs over 1/2 page wouldn't leave time for anything else.  But then again, what do I know as I've only done about 15 cases.

This is exactly what I am doing.  I write and highlight in the book and then try to capture the bare essentials of how the law was moved forward in a 1/2 page breif.  The breif takes no more that 5 minutes, because I already have worked out the analysis by marking up the book.  The breif is just there for reference, or as a hook to remember the case.

Is there a point to your rant?

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