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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Cigarettes at the LSAT?
« on: June 20, 2009, 12:04:30 PM »
I smoked during the LSAT, at the break and I think at least one other time. Anyhoo, it may depend on the testing site, though.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: What about the writing portion?
« on: May 05, 2009, 10:07:43 PM »
There was an essay portion on that thing!?

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General Board / Re: Bar Review Course - Worth Spending 3K
« on: May 05, 2009, 09:59:51 PM »
Is it worth spending 3K on a bar review course? Please advice.

Given how you've worded this question, I would advice you to take a bar review class.

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Hey,

I'll be starting law school in August.  I'm sure these topics will be covered at orientation, but I'm curious now.

What are the typical items brought to class on any given day of class?  Laptop?  Textbooks?  Anything specific that has helped you in the past?  Do students find it easier to take all notes on a laptop?

Also, they say that for every hour of class you have each day, that is 2 hours of studying you must do.  Why so much studying?  What kind of studying is there to do?  Outlining?  Reading?  Please explain.

Thank you in advance!!

Now I'm pissed that I even replied cuz you posted this THREE frickin' times. Dude, you SHOULD work 100 hours a week. It's the only way you'll pass.

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I take my books, the briefs I create for the cases, and the notes I take out of the book with me to class. My friends like using their laptops to take notes but I find it distracts me more than it helps.

Second your time calculation is a little low. To score at the top of your class you will need to put in approx 3 1/2 - 4 hours per hour in class, thus for 15 credits you should be studying 54-60 hrs a week. It is not as bad as it sounds, you will be able to put in 3-5 hours on campus during the day leaving only 3-4 for home. At the beginning of the semester the reading and briefing is going to take you forever but you should get faster as the semester progresses. Outlining shouldn't begin, at least for 1st semester 1L's until at least the 1/4 mark. If you try to start before that you will not have enough material and the product you produce will likely be low quality since you will still be learning how to brief and identify issues.

Stay away from canned briefs such as high courts and so on, they are useless. They are the law students guide to being bottom 1/3.

Lastly, quit worrying about LS. Enjoy your last summer, do not buy any other those guides to law school or success books they are also useless.

This dude's crazy. I smacked the edge of the top 1/3 putting in 1.5:1 (outside time: class time) first year and 0.25:1 in my second and third years. Students (not me) who establish "smart" working habits and get top grades (top 10% / top 5%) generally treat law school like a full-time job, arriving at 8AM and leaving at 5PM. I go for the "lazy/smart" working habits.

Anyhoo, you'll get your syllabuses and books (ONLY BUY REQD TEXTS) before your first class, and you'll likely have an assignment to read. Bring the book you were supposed to read from, your laptop, a highlighter, and a pen.

Do NOT work 80 hours a week. This is marathon, not a sprint. You need reserves for the last two weeks of the semester and two weeks of exams. 30-50 hours per week building to 40-60 during those last four weeks will do you just fine.

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Well I found out Kaplan is giving a practice LSAT Friday near where I live. I am gonna take it just to see where I stand. Wish me Luck!

I'd highly recommend taking an LSAT preparation course. Your score, more than your experience or your undergraduate grades and courses, will determine where you get in and whether they'll give you ducats.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Hard to absorb info...any help?
« on: April 04, 2009, 09:17:00 AM »
I have this problem often. You're either experiencing an attention or a comprehension issue. If things were "better" before, you've likely changed something in your environment, perhaps without even realizing it.

Any of the following might help:
1) Watch your intake. Do you smoke? Drink coffee? Drink too much booze? Smoke too much pot? Eating less healthy food? Eating less or more in general? Any change in ANY of that can affect reading comprehension / attention span.
2) Watch your sleep. Any change in sleep patterns? Difficulty falling or staying asleep?
3) Smaller doses of study and building back up. Start with smaller session of study with loads of breaks. Work toward longer stretches.
4) Compartmentalize. Work to read ONLY the question in front of you and its possible answers. Try to cloud out the remainder of the exam, the time that remains, the itch on your nose, etc. You can get better at this by meditating a bit each day.
5) If all else fails, get evaluated by a shrink to determine whether you have a real issue that can be ameliorated by medication. If all else fails....

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: No shot at Yale?
« on: April 04, 2009, 08:55:57 AM »
It's important now that you finish undergrad as strong as you can, continue to practice for the LSAT, and then obtain the highest score you can on the LSAT.

Do you have children yourself? Are you a woman? Are you Hispanic or Native American rather than black? "Yes"s to any of those may improve your chances because you're then from an even smaller minority.

You've likely got a great story to tell in your App, though. Rock the LSAT (170 or above) and SOME T14 will likely take you. Whether you get into HYS is, well, impossible to determine.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Alternative Civ Pro Supplements?
« on: April 02, 2009, 06:12:26 PM »
Unfortunately it is the prof.'s first time teaching the class so there are no previous outlines or exams to look at...Nor are any of the cases we studied cited in any supplements.

What a male private part. Oh boy. Study / outline group? Request hypos/sample problems from the prof that he/she thinks are useful? Let the prof know Glennon's not helping -- what other supplement would?

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