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Law School Admissions / Re: Adderall
« on: April 08, 2004, 04:30:48 PM »
If you need it to get through law school, what will you use when you are a practicing attorney?   :P

My children. :)

Ah, I mean having their pretty faces available at all times in photos on my desk.

Wait, that would be more of a distraction. ;)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Chapman v. Whittier
« on: April 08, 2004, 04:09:32 PM »
I thought this discussion was about Chapman vs. Whittier.

Anyways, an argument on an internet discussion hardly gets you anywhere but at least it does get some points out.

I was wondering how the Chapman vs Whittier thread became 8 pages long, LOL.  Last I checked (less than a day ago), it was only 4 pages.  Thought maybe Chapman and Whittier had been going on a financial aid spree. :)

To anyone going to either of these schools, I would advise choosing whatever path minimizes your debt level.  Chapman/Whittier may not be a top 14 and may not get you a job in BigLaw, but at least your debt level won't force you to only have BigLaw as an option.  I don't know that much about how each school is perceived in the community, but from the possibly inaccurate data USNews provided last year, it seemed the only differences between the two schools were student-faculty ratio (Whittier at 23, Chapman at 15) and admission standards (Chapman had the upper hand here).  Whittier had a lower bar passage rate but that corrolates with the lower admissions standard.  That also seem to have a better reputation than Chapman, but again, this is based on poorly orchestrated reputation surveys on USNews' part.

To the poster who received the full-ride at Whittier and half-ride at Chapman, do try to get the class rank requirement lowered.  If this is possible, re-evaluate the aid packages with the new requirements in mind.  If it is not possible, it might not be that bad an idea to attend Whittier (on the full-ride) and work your butt off for the first year.  After the first year is over, if you don't do well enough, at least you didn't have to shell out much money (there is still an opportunity cost for the full year of work lost though) if you decide not to continue in your law education.  And if you did well enough, you can keep attending for free or maybe even transfer up to a Top 100 school (though transferring would probably mean no financial aid at the new school).  In either case, if you do well, you have options, and if you don't do well, then you have less to lose.  The economy is not that great right now for lawyers, so the road ahead might be long and tough.  Having less debt = more options.  I hope you do really well and keep your head up.  Success is not measured by the amount you earn, but by the person you are.  Best of wishes!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: BC vs. BU vs. Fordham
« on: April 08, 2004, 03:37:12 PM »
BC grads mostly stay in Boston simply cuz Boston is so nice.  I've also heard that BC is considered as superior to BU in the Boston area, so maybe that's why BU grads are known to go elsewhere more.  BC has a nicer campus and is religiously affiliated while BU has an ugly facility but supposedly really great profs (great at teaching).  Not sure if BU is religiously affiliated.  Go to BC so that I can go to BU. ;)  Both are great schools; good luck with your decision!

Law School Admissions / Re: Adderall
« on: April 08, 2004, 03:24:14 PM »
Adderall is an amphetamine... It is often used to help a person focus and is therefore useful for ADHD persons. I could help you study better but I don't think it's worth it. Go the natural route and do your best.

Hmm, wow, sounds like I need some of that LOL, though I'm not sure how exactly this added ability to focus would feel like.

Law School Admissions / Re: Good schools with low attrition
« on: April 08, 2004, 03:20:56 PM »
Also, I don't know, just out of curiosity, are there actually slackers in law school?  That don't show up, don't do reading, etc.?  I mean you'd expect at that level that kind of stuff wouldn't exist.

You better believe it.  There's always going to be slackers in ANY situation, be it undergrad or med school.  They're the ones that usually flunk out.

Law School Admissions / Re: a question about the ultra cool lingo
« on: April 08, 2004, 03:11:58 PM »
lol, 8)
third tier toilet=a crappy school. the third tier part refers to the USNEWS rankings.

AH... I didn't know what TTT meant so I assumed it meant T____ Titty Twister... so much for that...

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Chapman v. Whittier
« on: April 07, 2004, 08:31:41 PM »
i just went to the accepted students luncheon at whittier and they said that whittier was just a point away from making it into Tier 3 this year. anyone else hear this?

I wouldn't put much weight on that statement.  USNews scores are extremely fickle.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Take the money or Move up a tier?
« on: April 07, 2004, 12:16:52 PM »

Have you tried to bargain to get those Top 20/30% requirements removed? You should.  Trust me- it works!

Wow, if you can get the requirement for Whittier removed, I would probably go with Whittier then.  Considering both are 3rd/4th tier schools, you probably will have to work your way up the payscale so having minimum loans would make you a much happier camper. :)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: NYLS vs Hofstra
« on: April 07, 2004, 12:14:22 PM »
Eh... last year the last raw score to count for the 2nd tier was 43, so Hofstra could have been (and very likely was, considering the stats of other 3rd tier schools) a 42.  This year Hofstra is a 44.  It's not really that much of a difference... if it was a 4-5 point jump, sure, but schools go up and down 2-3 points every year.

I believe that Hofstra was 2nd tier only a few years ago and then dipped down to 3rd so their 'rises' back into the 2nd tier isn't that impressive. 

yep, from what I've heard they got a new dean a few years back who sucked, a LOT and pretty much destroyed the school's credibility and recruiting.

I think it is impressive rebounding by a 11 school jump (at least) into the second tier, whether it used to be 2nd tier or not

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Take the money or Move up a tier?
« on: April 07, 2004, 10:37:31 AM »
Dang, that's a tough call.  You may want to consider that if you go to Whittier with their full-ride, you may lose it and then end up paying more than Chapman.  You could also lose your half-ride at Chapman but it has a little more cushion space.  I think I would have to recommend Chapman over Whittier then.  Nothing would suck more than having to shell out big bucks for a 4th tier (and top 20% ... so easy to slip to top 25% based on one grade, etc.)

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