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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« on: August 04, 2008, 05:45:06 AM »
YP? What makes you think Vandy YPs? Nothing on LSN gives any indication of this. Everybody who was WLed with LSATs of 169+ had relatively bad GPAs (two 170+ WLs were 3.57/3.63 and hardly seem to indicate a pattern). Everybody with even a decent GPA was accepted with respectable or lots of money.

I wouldn't bother with an extra addendum. Just put together a good application that shows you care.

Also, re: YP, his LSAT is not going to be above the 75th compared to the new 1Ls. His LSAT will also likely be the new median. Schools that YP don't YP median candidates. They're the school's target/reaches with $$$.

Other comments: Rusky doesn't seem to know anything. As observationalist pointed out, the people working in Nashville have ties to the area. Unless she just simply lacks clarity, either school does not get you a job there easily.

If, on the other hand, you thought you might want to work more nationally, then a T14 would probably be a better bet.  Vandy can get you national biglaw if you're near top of the class, but that's tough to achieve at a place like Vandy, where everyone's pretty bright and studious.  The T14 will give you national options even if you're average.

All indicators point to median (presumably what you mean by average) kids going nationally just fine. They have to. There aren't many jobs in the region.

I wish people would cut this T14 nonsense out.




I suppose you know I'm wrong from experience?

Well, allow me to clarify that my comment is actually from experience of interviewing with Nashville firms as a T14 student. While I've never lived in Nashville, I assure you I had no problems getting offers at Nashville firms, even though I got my first interviews through cold calls and a mail campaign rather than through OCI. Had a similar experience in Texas.

At the end of the day, regional ties matter far less to firms than pedigree. They all want prestigious law schools listed in their attorney bios, and if a candidate with no regional ties but a T14 degree is reasonably convincing that he is serious about staying in Nashville, he will have no trouble getting a job there.

Before you point out how few lawyers from T14's work in Nashville firms, consider that these statistics are not telling of how many T14 candidates were actually given offers. Obviously, there are fewer T14 candidates that want to work in Nashville, because it is a secondary market, but that does not mean that they are having trouble getting jobs there if they want them.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Law Schools Placing Well in DC
« on: August 01, 2008, 05:52:54 PM »
Just curious, what are you basing your argument on and what is your definition of placing well?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Law Schools Placing Well in DC
« on: August 01, 2008, 04:13:01 PM »
Consider Vandy and Emory. Also, depending on your numbers, G-town PT might be an option, as may Boalt. Good luck.

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It's unfortunate that you had a bad experience, but you have to learn to see it in a positive light. Very quickly if you're doing 2L OCI this fall. And even if you aren't, your 1L experience is a spring board to other employment, so even if it wasn't a positive one, you have to learn to spin it, to identify some positive aspects of the experience which you will share with your interviewers. I don't care what you did, there are always, always transferrable skills that you picked up and that you can apply in your next job. I know it's frustrating when things don't work out the way you expected and those responsible for your professional development don't invest the time or don't have the pedagogical skills to provide you with meaningful work, but you have to, you absolutely must spin this!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 159 Lsat, 3.9 GPA-Florida Schools
« on: August 01, 2008, 04:05:29 PM »
It's really not a bad deal if you're in-state. ARe you?

I am in state (thankfully) so it's an incredible deal on tuition. My undergrad was paid for by Florida Bright Futures so I have no debt. I know I won't be able to keep it that way with law school but every little bit helps. I'm not looking for a free ride or anything, even if I retest I know I won't score well enough for that. But any money is better than nothing!

On another note, I am UG at Florida so if they waitlisted me, I think my reaction would be "screw you." I am proud to be a gator, but Florida has a big ego. I would probably be annoyed, not for any rational reason... just out of spite.

That was pretty much my reaction. I think they did it because I did undergrad at UT.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« on: August 01, 2008, 04:04:11 PM »
I am basing my assumptions on LSN numbers... people with my stats and non-URMS are getting between 75k-90k at Vandy and 35k-50k from Duke.  Assumptions are all I have to go by at this point, although I will probably be eligible for quite a bit of need-based merit.

Well then either school would be a good deal. Scratch comment above re: scholarships, but the rest of my advice holds. If you think you might change your mind about Nashville (what makes you want to be there as opposed to any other Southern city anyway?), you should strongly consider Duke.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Nashville- Vandy a surefire bet?
« on: August 01, 2008, 02:22:16 PM »
Vandy, but I wouldn't count on getting scholarships out of Duke with your numbers unless you are a URM. And while Vandy might throw in something to sweeten the pot, I certainly wouldn't count on it. As the poster above said, apply, see if you get in, see what you are offered and then weigh your options. Either school will get you a job in Nashville without much trouble, so at least IMO loans should be a bigger concern. If there's any chance you will change your mind about working in Nashville, go to Duke.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 159 Lsat, 3.9 GPA-Florida Schools
« on: August 01, 2008, 02:16:58 PM »
What are my chances? I am mostly concerned about UF and FSU. I am an undergrad at UF and FSU is my first choice for law. I was pretty disappointed with my LSAT score and am probably going to retake in October, but is that a really a good idea? At first I thought I was ok with taking it again but as time goes by, I am losing interest in a retake.
Also, technically I am URM (African American Father, Caucasian mother) but I chose to classify myself as "other" with LSAC because I don't identify myself as just AA. I am guessing that they will not assume I am URM because I put "other." However, I am thinking about talking a little bit about it in my PS because it has affected my life. 

You will be fine. I had similar numbers, am a white female, and got into FSU, UM with $, Stetson with $ and Florida waitlisted me (I withdrew after I got into better schools).

Thanks for the hope :-) I'm hoping to get some money out of FSU....thus me contemplating the retake. It's already cheap, so no money wouldn't keep me away but the less loans the better.

It's really not a bad deal if you're in-state. ARe you?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 159 Lsat, 3.9 GPA-Florida Schools
« on: August 01, 2008, 01:29:51 PM »
What are my chances? I am mostly concerned about UF and FSU. I am an undergrad at UF and FSU is my first choice for law. I was pretty disappointed with my LSAT score and am probably going to retake in October, but is that a really a good idea? At first I thought I was ok with taking it again but as time goes by, I am losing interest in a retake.
Also, technically I am URM (African American Father, Caucasian mother) but I chose to classify myself as "other" with LSAC because I don't identify myself as just AA. I am guessing that they will not assume I am URM because I put "other." However, I am thinking about talking a little bit about it in my PS because it has affected my life. 

You will be fine. I had similar numbers, am a white female, and got into FSU, UM with $, Stetson with $ and Florida waitlisted me (I withdrew after I got into better schools).

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Memoirs of a Bar Examinee
« on: July 31, 2008, 10:52:26 AM »
I LOVED my Evidence class. Easily my fave subject in law school.

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