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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Final visit to Syracuse
« on: May 23, 2005, 12:58:40 PM »
Well I finally made my trip down to Syracuse and I must say that this has been one of the hardest decisions I have ever had to make.  I will tell you my impressions of Syracuse:

I got to Syracuse on Wednesday night and checked out the city a bit before going out to dinner with my family.  I was pretty pleased to see the city is nice and though I have heard a lot about the sketchy areas I never actually saw any (this is not to say they don't exist, I was probably lucky enough not to venture to these parts).  In the morning I went over to the campus and it happened to be the most beautiful sunny Spring day.  I was blown away by the beauty of the campus which is situated up on the hill.  I went to school at a beautful campus for undergrad but I found Syracuse University's campus to be superior.  I parked in a parking garage that connects to the law school building and is where students can park for a cost of around $260 per year.  This is a great convenience for anyone planning on driving to school because it is close to the building and covered for those long snowy Syracuse winters.

The day I went was the last day of exams for most students so I probably did not have a similar experience to those who were lucky enough to attend the visitors programs.  It was interesting to see exams in progress though.  I was given a tour by a member of the admissions staff and I thought the law building was very nice and impressive.  The facility is modern and spacious and it felt like it would not be too crowded.  I saw the school's two moot court rooms which were okay but not anything spectacular.  All the classrooms seemed nice and I was lucky enough to chat with some recent alumni working at the school who were very helpful.  Any student or alumni I talked to had only  good things to say about their school.  I appreciated the friendly atmosphere I felt there too.  I also like the level of organization at Syracuse.  I was provided with an information package with maps of Syracuse, a Renter's Guide and more information on financial aid etc. It was nice to be given all this information right off the bat.

I visited the legal clinic which is very important criteria for my decision because I plan to participate in a clinic if possible.  The clinic was impressive too until I spoke with a student who let me know there is little to no opportunity for 2Ls on the clinics and that the positions for 3Ls were very competitive.  This was probably the only disappointing part of the tour for me. Syracuse is a great law school with a great program and one of the nicest campuses I have ever visited. Also the cost of living in Syracuse is very reasonable.  All things considered I felt very lucky to be offered a position at Syracuse.  My tour guide mentioned this was one of the toughest admission years in a very long time which made me feel good.

I left Syracuse that afternoon on my way to Albany.  I wanted to make one more visit to the school before I made my final decision.  I was caught up in the romance of the Syracuse campus and big undergrad appeal and I needed to be reminded of the reasons I had chosen Albany.........

I know this is cheesy but: To be continued.................

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I will  be making my final decision on these 2 schools in a few days - after I visit each school.  I am leaning toward Albany and despite the last reference to hearing bad things about the school (like what?)I have visited, researched and met with faculty and adminitration at Albany and I am really impressed with what I have learned about the school thus far.

Syracuse is also a great school and since they are close in rankings and reputation so it is important to take you personal concerns into consideration when making this decision.

Ask yourself:

1. Where do I want to practice law? 

Most Albany graduates find work in the Northeast (Boston, NYC, Connecticut) and also in DC.  There are also opportunities in upstate and western New York. (I have studied the graduatu

According to a lot of people on LSD Syracuse grads find jobs throughout the country and the school has a stronger national rep.

2. What kind of educational environment am I more likely to thrive in?

Achieving your personal best academically will largely determine how easy it is for you to find a good job at graduation.

I will post my impressions of Syracuse when I return on Sunday!

Good Luck in making your decision!



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I hear what you are saying V00Jeff, however I am taking exception to your use of the term "greed". 

This term does not refer to the common desire to aqcuire wealth and attain a certain level of lifestyle.  The connotation of this particular term refers to one's drive to selfishly obtain wealth at the cost of others

Greed:
reprehensible acquisitiveness; insatiable desire for wealth (personified as one of the deadly sins)“Many... attach to competition the stigma of selfish greed” (Henry Fawcett).

Yes I aspire to a certain level of lifestyle for myself and my family and I see BIGLAW as a means to this end.  Does this mean that I am "greedy"?  I am sure your answer is yes but I won't accept that working hard in my chosen profession for a high salary makes me reprehensible with an insatiable desire for wealth.  I am realistic about the life I want to give my children and what it will take to do this.  I want to provide the best opportunities.  This might mean private schools or the chance to travel internationally or a debt free college education at the school of their dreams.  Personally, I hope to own a beautiful home and eventually retire without a fixed and limited lifestyle.  I plan on being able to give back to my parents and make their life more comfortable in their retirement.  Working hard towards these objectives does not constitute greed. Becoming this wealthy would make me happy based on what I would be able to do for the people I love. There must be a better word for this than greed.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: MAFIA LAW PROGRAMS
« on: May 11, 2005, 01:33:50 PM »
I agree with the Miami point.  Imagine the perks you would recieve handling the legal affairs for drug lords!  There's the South Beach mansions, the endless supplies of cocaine and also high class prostitutes in bikinis available whenever needed.  Of course you will have a pretty full work load and the job will undoubtedly demand long hours and a certain amount of international travel.  All in all.......not a bad gig.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Suffolk vs. UConn
« on: May 11, 2005, 01:27:14 PM »
Okay I felt I had to respond to you because I understand your dilemma of having practical plans to go to a school and wanting to stick with them.  However, I think if you are given the opportunity to attend the University of Connecticut you have to take it!!!!

UCONN is cheaper, much higher ranked and has an excellent reputation especially in the Northeast.  If you want to go to Boston there will be every opportunity for you to do so from UCONN and you will probably have more success finding work than you would if you went to Suffolk.

I am not sure if you are planning to work for a private firm but I have looked up UCONN on the NALP directory and 1/3 of the firms listed as recruiting at UCONN are in Boston.  It also appears that UCONN is a national school while Suffolk would be considered regional.

I like Suffolk and I think it is a good school but I was personally concerned about competing with Harvard BU BC and Northeastern grads for a finite number of Boston jobs.

I sound like I work for UCONN or something but my advice is: Continue to plan for Suffolk but don't pass up a golden oppotunity to go to UCONN if the chance presents itself!  Good Luck! ;)

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I agree that it is important to go to a school where you will have the best overall experience.  The concerns you have are legitimate.  Choosing a law school carries a whole new level of stress because of the significant financial investment. What works on paper can be totally different from what will work for you personally.

Have you given the other schools as much consideration?  How do they compare as far as career placement etc.?

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Just a funny email I got today ;D

TOP TEN THINGS THAT SOUND DIRTY, BUT IN A LAW FIRM, AREN'T:
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>10. Have you looked through her briefs?
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>9. He is one hard judge
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>8. Counselor, let's do it in chambers.
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>7. Her attorney withdrew at the last minute.
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>6. Is it a penal offense?
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>5. Better leave the handcuffs on.
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>4. For $200 an hour, she better be good!
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>3. Can you get him to drop his suit?
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>2. The judge gave her the stiffest one he could..
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>And the number 1 thing that sounds dirty but in law isn't:
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>1. Think you can get me off?

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Acceptances / Re: Bottom of 2nd Tier Vs. 3rd Tier - Opinions?
« on: May 05, 2005, 10:26:31 PM »
Yes MSU this whole thing is extremely tired.  Let's kill the thread.


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Acceptances / Re: Bottom of 2nd Tier Vs. 3rd Tier - Opinions?
« on: May 05, 2005, 06:24:38 PM »
blah blah blah blah!

Counterpoint  you just do not know when to stop.  You are boring me now.  Not only do you not listen well but you also like to make assumptions. I don't really care about your opinions on my future........go bother someone else with your ego and your arrogance Assumptions lead to prejudice and hypocrisy.  You should watch yourself Counter - your personality issues will only work against you in the future.
 


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Acceptances / Re: Bottom of 2nd Tier Vs. 3rd Tier - Opinions?
« on: May 05, 2005, 03:35:29 PM »
Counterpoint- Is there any room in your head for the possibility that people have different experiences and opinions or does your ego take up too much space?  Have you considered the fact that other people may have information or knowledge that you are unaware of?  I know you are so completely consumed with your own perspective that you appear to be incapable of having a two way discussion.  This could be your downfall one day because even though you display strong skills in retaining facts and checking people's grammar, these traits are overshadowed by your inability to listen.

I am putting a stop to this now because I suspect this kind of banter is turning you on.  Pathetic really.  You need to relax.

 

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