« on: July 05, 2006, 09:58:56 AM »
I didn't say that you created it. You are the cranky alumnus who posts about how it's damn near impossible for Brooklyn grads to pay off of their loans & how all of the career center stats are lies. You say you are happy, but you troll a message board for your old law school & post constant negativity. Don't act like you have no idea what you are talking about b/c I've read threads of 20+ posts where everyone and their mom is arguing with you and commenting on your cynicism.
Listen, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest over who posted what and when, but suffice to say that on Brooklawtalk's Forum there is another poster that goes by "nyc78####" who seems to post negative messages about loans, career stats,etc. I want to make it clear that THAT PERSON IS NOT ME. My user name on Brooklaw talk (created only yesterday) is the same one as this one and I wasn't even aware of the Brooklaw talk "forums" until you mentioned it.
Now as to the substance of the remaining comments, I really have nothing else to add except that as much as I like BLS and have no loan debt (I lived at home and received generous fin aid/scholarships in 2L and 3L), I dont know any Bklyn Law classmates who are struggling to pay their loans. However, just because I personally lack knowledge of BLS grads who are in default or have defaulted on loans does not mean there aren't any grads at all who are struggling right now. For that type of info, I defer to the BLS administration if they care to ever reveal that data (should they actually tabulate it).
As to the career stats, I think its common knowledge that all law schools inflate their numbers to portray their school better than it is. That much is clear when the career site boats an average $115K starting salary in the private sector when only 20-25% of the graduating class actually are employed as 1st year associates at big firms (not only that, but some schools take salaries reported by "Temps" who earn $35/hour doing doc review as 6 figure salaries, a nice exercise in mathematical creativity). In fact, I defer to Todd Bank, the plaintiff who filed a RICO action against Bklyn Law several years ago precisely on this issue (you can read that thread here:http://www.jdjive.com/read.php?1,238005). (NB I am not Todd Bank so don't even try to claim I am just his sock puppet on this board).
Whether Bklyn does this on a minor scale is unknown but I think its important for prospective Brooklyn Law students to know that getting an offer of $125-145K/year to fall on your lap right after law school is really a pipe dream for most. When the legal job market is as bad as it was right after 9/11 (2002, 2003, 2004), it goes without saying that the # of firms recruiting at Bklyn went down and the # of offers given to all law students in general, declined. When the legal job market tanks, the students hit hardest are those at the bottom. Its common sense and it is reality.
You should check first before assuming every "negative" message about Bklyn or the legal profession was actually written by me before you jump down other people's throats.