That intersting, very good information thanks to both of you. As far as job offers, are BK and Cardozo about the same?[/i]
Yes they are. Far as I know, both are ranked equally. I chose Bklyn over Cardozo for its (1) reputation and alumni network(BLS around since 1901, Cardozo only since 1976)
(2) clinics (Cardozo didnt have as many as BLS when I applied
(3) facilities ('dozo didnt have a nice library or classrooms)
(4) location (Bklyn is next to all state/fed courts, steps away from the DA's Office and other agencies, Cardozo is somewhere near the Village, steps from Washington Sq Park)
(5) general vibe (I am not Jewish and didnt like Cardozo's library closing for sabbath and as a non-Jew felt I would not be welcome there)
(6) per an AMLAW survey, Bklyn beat out Cardozo in terms of NYC firm placement
As far as Cardozo's "top notch" faculty, I don't deny that they have a good list of professors that focus on the theoretical aspects of the law and curriculum. But my goal as a 1L was to (1)learn the law I needed to know to be a competent attorney/pass the bar exam, and (2) find a good job at a respectable firm. If you check out CUNY Law school, they also have professors with impressive credentials (Harvard, Yale JD's, publications galore, etc) but do these credentials make for better teaching or just mere puffery for a law school's "Faculty Bio" Web Site? In my experience, the best professors I had at Bklyn were Rosato, Janger and Gerber - and it has nothing to do with their credentials, but because they taught the law in a way that made the most sense to me.
Hence why all of Cardozo's claim about having a "great" faculty really didn't matter that much to me (but I'm sure its an important factor to some other applicants).>>> I want to do corporate law and I guess I was under the mistaken assumption that if you do well and intern during the summer, you will most likely be offered a job making between $125K and $145K as soon as you graduate. Some people make it seem like you won't even have to go job hunting, the jobs will come to you. Is this only at top schools, and how hard is it to get summer internships?<<<
Yes and yes. If you are ranked top 15-20% at BLS, have a decent resume, have a pulse, its going to be hard NOT to get a job offer from a big firm paying $145K. If you walk into the BLS Career Center, you can pick up the Employment Manual and see for yourself what the criteria are for certain firms (Allen & Overy requires top 20% and prefers Law Review/Journal/Moot Court membership). There are about 300-400 employers who visit BLS each fall for On Campus Recruiting, and even a lowly 1L like myself (who was ranked bottom X percent of my class) scored 3 interviews during OCI with firms like Anderson Kill & Olick, Whitman Breed and Fragomen Del Rey (large immigration firm). I did not get callbacks because my GPA was low compared to other BLS students who had similar resumes as myself (language fluency, a certain fave feeder undergrad, 1L summer with a magistrate judge). Of course, if you lack this criteria (class rank), then you are sh*t out of luck. Your job search will entail targeted cover letter/resume mailings to certain firms off Emplawyernet, Craigslist classifieds, the NY Law Journal Classifieds, and Martindale-Hubbell directories, mass mailers (I never did one but considered it), and chatting up networks/contacts as graduation time approaches (mind you, I landed my first legal job about 1 month AFTER graduating from Bklyn and from an Emplawyernet job ad no less).
If you have a BA/BS or Masters degree in engineering or a hard science, and plan to do intellectual property (patent prosecution, etc) and have passed the Patent Bar Exam (or plan to take it), then disregard everthing what I've written above re: class rank. You will be desirable pretty much anywhere given the demand for IP attorneys right now.
Re: Summer Internships
: they are plentiful. I actually did 2 in my 1L summer (one with the judge and also a part time evening internship with a local Bar Association as a Committee Member that qualfied for independent study). I secured ALL my part time and summer internships via the clinics and the Emplawyernet database. The opportunities for Brooklyn Law students are DEFINITELY there, if you make the effort to seek them out.
Any other q's, feel free to post.