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General Board / Re: what's up with law school relationships?
« on: August 28, 2005, 06:58:30 PM »
If you are in a position where you can say this with a straight face, apparently you've never had to figure out a "simple matter" like the state of a relationship.  I haven't met a legal issue as complicated as making a relationship work. 

I'm dating this swedish chick right now, she's in sweden currently visiting her family so its going pretty well ;).  In all seriousness though, this goes back to the cute punk rock chick standpoint. Cute punk rock girls dont partake in this aspect of the womens need to be dependent on her boyfriend for all those little bull issues. If you're honest and tell your partner exactly how you feel in ever aspect of the relationship its really simple.

I have had situations where this wasnt the case and ends up with me leaving the dinner table saying something to the effect, i dont need this *&^%, i.e., when a girl started telling me what I "need" to do.  You just need to find one that doesnt do that, is ok with you making your own decisions, and loves the decisions you make.  Again honesty in what you both expect out of the relationship is key.

It seems that people dont know what they expect from their partner causing too many misunderstandings and arguments.

What it really comes back to is you making a sweeping statement like "if you can't handle a something simple like a relationship, you can't handle complex legal issues", which is simply laughable.  I have no idea how what you just said clarifies that in any way.

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General Board / Re: what's up with law school relationships?
« on: August 28, 2005, 02:19:13 PM »
Blackcar, if you're a cute punk rock girl i say drop the losser, are you in new york, we can discuss this further listening to some jawbreaker and over a beer.

You seem like a fun guy, but comments about "cute punk rock girls" should really be on a high school forum ;)

Yes you are right in a sense; however, we must consider the origin of the quote and its relevance to this board. 

"Cute punk rock girls" was first cited by another poster regarding the lack of such entities in law school and their relationship to the alleged prevalence of snobby a-holes.

Now with this being established, I would argue that comments regarding cute punk rock girls, hereinafter ARE permissible on this board.

Also they are permissible in law school and any other arena they would like to frequent.

This is ONLY applicable to cute punk rock girls, with a major emphasis on the CUTE element of the comment.

Thank you and have a good day.

Decided August 28th 2005.

PS.  *&^% its already the 28th, I have to send in my rent check.

So, you're a 1L?  ;)

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General Board / Re: Mandatory Attendance
« on: August 28, 2005, 12:35:17 PM »
No mandatory attendance, although I think there is a minimum percentage of classes you need to attend, but I think the percentage is so high it can hardly be referred to as "mandatory attendance."

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General Board / Re: what's up with law school relationships?
« on: August 28, 2005, 12:32:21 PM »
Blackcar, if you're a cute punk rock girl i say drop the losser, are you in new york, we can discuss this further listening to some jawbreaker and over a beer.

You seem like a fun guy, but comments about "cute punk rock girls" should really be on a high school forum ;)

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General Board / Re: what's up with law school relationships?
« on: August 28, 2005, 03:54:51 AM »
"If you can't figure out a simple matter like the state of your relationship, how are you going to figure out complicated issues that are involved in learning the law."

If you are in a position where you can say this with a straight face, apparently you've never had to figure out a "simple matter" like the state of a relationship.  I haven't met a legal issue as complicated as making a relationship work. 

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General Board / Re: What's the deal with...OUTLINING?!
« on: August 27, 2005, 04:17:43 AM »
My method:

Give yourself approximately 40-45 hours (total) for each class, max.  In that amount of time you should be able to completely outline the course (first half of the time) and memorize stuff that needs memorizing.  Spend the rest of the time reading as many exams and exam answers and examples as you can get your hands on.  It really depends on your style, though.  I'm the type of person who really turns it on those few weeks before and during finals.  I read, I book brief, I take good notes, blah, but there is no outlining done until those last few weeks before exams.  That's the way I did it, but I make no predictions as to how that would work for you.

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General Board / Re: what's up with law school relationships?
« on: August 27, 2005, 04:08:41 AM »
It's come as quite a shock to me to learn of my new classmates opinions regarding significant others.  Predominantly, of the attached law students that I have met, most seem to be on-the-fence regarding their significant others.  It is as though something about starting law school makes them want to break it off, or lessens their confidence in the future of their relationships.  Why is this?

My boyfriend and I are both 1Ls at different law schools within an hour of each other, however I am beginning to feel the same kind of hesitancy from him, even though we were inseparable last week - and for the last 4 years.  What the hell is it about law school that makes relationships go sour, or that makes people want to jump ship???

I feel like I am a freshman in college again and everyone is ditching their highschool boyfriends.  Aren't we old enough and mature enough not to go crazy when we meet a bunch of unattached young people?  What the hell is different about law school than the working world or even undergrad??

Am I alone is this thinking?  Anyone else appalled at the way law school makes people want to break up with SOs?     

As a consolation of some sort, I moved 3 hours away from my girlfriend to go to law school (unintentionally, sort of, but that's a long story) and proposed to her spring break of my first year.  I wouldn't say that law school makes relationship go sour, I think it just weeds out those that aren't very strong.  It takes a strong relationship to live through a month of law school finals.

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General Board / Re: orientation questions
« on: August 22, 2005, 08:23:30 PM »
Today was the first day of orientation. I walked in and there was a sea of black suits. They, of course, told us to dress professional. But, I was still relieved I wasn't the only one in a suit. The funny part is one guy apparently didn't get the memo, and he strolled in wearing a t-shirt, shorts, and flip flops. He looked like Jeff Spicoli. Everyone looked at him, and it was obvious they were making comments to each other. He just kind of shrunk away to the edge of the crowd. Can you imagine how he must of felt when he first walked in. I would have run home real quick to change. That's the antithesis to the one guy who shows up in a suit at an orientation with a casual dress code. They both looked like tools. Of course, maybe all of us in suits still looked like tools, but at least we could be tools together.

Boy, I hope for your sake that the first day isn't a reflection on the rest of your law school career.  My nightmare was a law school wear everyone "dressed professionally" every day.  Shudder.  My anecdotal experience, one person that I can remember wore a suit, most were in between, quite a few wore the t-shirt and flip flops ensemble. 

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General Board / Re: Did you/will you ever take a weekend off?
« on: August 22, 2005, 04:47:40 PM »
Some guy who was always an underprepared idiot in class will kick your ass in the class ranking, because for some reason, he could actually write an exam.   

Hey, that's me ;).  Seriously, it's just a matter of style.  Save for the classes where the professor was really big on socratic method and a full-on brief was necessary because the prof cared just as much about Aunt Susie's middle name as they did about the black letter law, I book briefed if I briefed at all.  I always did the reading (I wasn't that much of a slacker), but I never did any supplemental reading.  I just turn it up during finals, pushing really long days.  Believe it or not, my retention has always been really good as well.  In sum, hopefully you know what's right for you from college or other experiences, and you do what's best for you.   

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General Board / Re: Did you/will you ever take a weekend off?
« on: August 22, 2005, 03:39:01 PM »
I spent about 7-8 hours studying each Saturday and Sunday (9-5 or so with a break fro a little lunch).  I know other poeple who didn't study on the weekend but in my opinion, failing to do so will likely keep you srom being in the top 10% of your class.  If you don't care about finishing that high anyways, then you really don't need to study all weekend to finish in the top half as long as you stay on the ball.

This is anecdotal for the most part, but I can't remember studying much at all on weekends (save for finals time), and I was well within top 10%.  My fiancee lives 3 hours away, so my weekends were more often than not spent travelling and hanging out with her.  On the flip side of that, my fiancee wasn't in town, so I had a lot of time during the week to study ;).  I guess my point is, the amount of time you spend studying and when you do it is a very individualized topic.  That being said, I don't know how smart it is to risk knowing whether you can pull off not studying on weekends.  If I had ended up in the bottom half, I'm sure I would have been regretting those weekends away....

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