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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: ave maria
« on: February 19, 2006, 10:09:51 AM »
I am an Ave Maria Law student so I may be able to offer a little insight.  There is some talk about a possible move in the future, but it is not decided and no one is going to tell you it's definately happening or definately not happening.  If they do move, they may phase it over there slowly so those students already attending in Michigan would remain in Michigan til graduation.  While it's a source of some contention, don't let that stop you from considering or visiting our school.  It is truly an outstanding legal education- and this from a student who is not politically conservative.  I know the impression people get is that everyone is of one mind, but we do have interesting and respectful debates and I get along with the people who don't agree with me on every topic.

I'm also receiving a full scholarship and it is quite a relief when you think about the years I won't be working to pay off those loans.

Additionally, I have already secured a summer job so it is not as difficult as you might think, coming from a new school.  Our reputation is beginning to precede us and people are saying good things.

Please email me with any further questions.  If you'd like to visit, I'd be happy to show you around.

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Posting a poll on a website doesn't really prove much of anything.  We're not competing for recognition among people who know nothing about law schools.  Find someone who goes to Ave Maria or has graduated from here to say something negative about the school.  It's a lot harder to find criticsm from people who know what they're talking about.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Financing a legal Education
« on: September 26, 2005, 11:11:53 AM »
You do know one can be both Catholic and liberal?  One is a religion, the other is a political identification that is fairly widely subjective.  Then of course there's Catholic and Mel Gibson/Tom Monaghan Catholic, which is a whole other story.  ;D

I am both Catholic and liberal.  I think around here Catholic and conservative tends to get lumped together.  I meant to differentiate between the conservative mainstream and the liberal minority.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Financing a legal Education
« on: September 26, 2005, 08:56:47 AM »
Are you actually a Catholic Lane?

Nope.

Explain the Ave Maria thing, if you will.  Isn't it like the den of Catholicism? 

It is, indeed. I did my graduate degree at a Catholic university (though not nearly as conservative as Ave) and I liked the approach. Figured I would try it for LS. Turns out Ave is a bit more Catholic than the school I went to, as well, but I'm not shunned (yet) or anything.

They have yet to read this board, apparently. 

Thank Buddha for that...

Some of us have.  Heehee

Honestly, there's this subculture of non-conservatives that seem to have sought each other out.  It starts by dropping the smallest of hints that you might not be totally opposed to all things liberal and it goes from there.  I'm happily existing in both the catholic and liberal crowds by keeping lots of secrets and it's kinda fun.  But the super-conservatives don't know who the outlanders are yet.

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Intriguiing! I'm in B, too. Mysteries, mysteries. I don't know if I should blow my cover. I'm not exactly your typical Ave Maria student.

I'm blowing Lane's cover... In real life he's none other than Baywatch's very own David Hasselhoff.  Lookin' good, baby!   ;)

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I was wondering what he was doing here...

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I'm in B.  Yeah, I was wondering which one you are too.   :) 

Intriguiing! I'm in B, too. Mysteries, mysteries. I don't know if I should blow my cover. I'm not exactly your typical Ave Maria student.
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Hmmm.... so at this very moment, we're both sitting in Property waiting for it to begin.

Not your typical Ave student.  I've met a few of those already.  Now I'm going to be trying to figure it out the next hour.

Well, I'm one of the girls, so that knocks out about 2/3 of the class for you.  :)

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Me too.  I spent a lot of time on the law school decision process so I know it can be a lot to take in.  Visiting the school seems to be what got a lot of us newbies sold on the idea.  I think that's a great idea and I'd be happy to meet up with you as well.

Do I know you? What section are you in?
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I'm in B.  Yeah, I was wondering which one you are too.   :) 

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Amaraya-

Thanks.  It's great to hear from two people who are actually happy with their choices.  My dream school (and total reach) is Notre Dame.  I fully expect they will reply to my application with a rejection letter asking did you really think we'd accept you.  I have now added Ave Maria to my list of schools.  Once the decisions are made, my spring will involve some road trips.  I hope Ave Maria is one stop along the way. 

Get together with Lane Swerver for some chalupas while you're there.

When you do come, shoot me a PM. I'd be glad to meet with you.

Me too.  I spent a lot of time on the law school decision process so I know it can be a lot to take in.  Visiting the school seems to be what got a lot of us newbies sold on the idea.  I think that's a great idea and I'd be happy to meet up with you as well.

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Thanks for taking the time to answer.  I am intriqued by Ave Maria.  However, I worry about the lack of a huge alumni network etc.  Still the faculty is impressive.  I actually would enjoy the catholic component I think.  I would love to go to a school where it wouldnt be absolutely taboo to discuss morality issues.  Where do most students live?  What was orientation like?  Decent social environment?  Any idea how genorous Ave Maria is in terms of financial aid? 

I'm throwing my $0.02 in, since I'm starting here with LaneSwerver.  First of all, I agree with everything he said.

To answer your points/questions, I was actually surprised by the amount of discussion that goes out about various political/moral issues.  It is not one-sided, but everyone seems very respectful and considerate.  Most of the students live in any of several apartment complexes within a mile or two of the school.  There are lots, as this is a college town (U of M).  Orientation, in my opinion, was great.  Everyone had a week to get to know each other and to know the school.  By the weekend, we were already studying in the library and I, personally, felt very at home.  There is a lot of interaction between the new 1Ls and the 2 and 3Ls.  There was even a barbeque at a 3L's house that every 1L was invited to.  Very cool social environment.

From talking to other students, I would say they are great with financial aid, particularly scholarship money.  Most of the people I've met are receiving some form of assistance.

It also seems like the school is very well organized.  In addition, the spiritual core of the school is very central and it does pervade the environment in an incredibly positive way.  I do not believe that the school meets the stereotype of being "ultra-right-wing" or "super-conservative" at all.  At least, that is my impression thus far.


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General Off-Topic Board / Re: What school is your "bottom line"?
« on: July 19, 2005, 11:17:23 AM »
My bottom line will be Catholic University. Although I am going to apply to Ave Maria and they are provisional right now.

They got approval.  The official full accreditation is going to be granted at the ABA's conference in August.

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