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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Best Tier 3 Schools?
« on: November 06, 2005, 10:24:16 PM »
Being a student at Toledo, Id also second that. However the difference between Wayne and Toledo is unimportant. Toledo may in fact make the jump back to being a tier 2 school, but it won't affect anything. Jumping back and forth a few spaces between tiers is good for nothing other than bragging rights. Come interview time, I will still have to compete with Wayne and MSU students.

I also find it ABSURD to go to Depaul. Why pay that much money for a degree that is only slightly better than schools 1/3 of the price? I can cover my tuition and very comfortable living expenses with the government 18,500 and don't need to seek private loans.

Depaul really makes me wonder. They have top notch facilities (Ive heard), are located in an amazing legal city, and seem to have pretty good placement in the area, but they are always a low 2nd or high 3rd tier school. Their numbers are decent too. Id find that scary if I was shelling out 120,000 for a law degree. Then I'd just get flat out pissed going to work with people 3 years later who have a third of the debt and the same job as you. But hey, you did get to live in the coolest city in the country for three years.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo !!!???
« on: October 19, 2005, 09:08:02 PM »
I could go on forever but Ill break it down briefly:

Weather doesnt bother me at all. Im from Michigan and I love having 4 seasons.

People do bother me. I have found that anywhere I go in this state I encounter just FLAMING ignorance and incompetence. The drivethrough windows are worse that any other state and the people are mean as all hell. There is lots of that redneck stuff like pick ups with crazy bumperstickers and confederate flags. Lots of country music, busch drinking bad asses, and vandalism. The People are REALLY lazy.

The landscape is disgusting. Vacant buildings everywhere and high unemployment rates. These people (due to ignorance) like to blame the chinese and mexicans, but then expect to be paid 45k a year with a GED to work on an assembly line. Just about everything smells bad. People think Ohio State is the capital of the country. Ive been spit on in the past for wearing a michigan sweatshirt. You can walk through ann arbor all day with buckeye stuff on and worst case scenario is you get yelled at.

But yea if I could sum it up in four terms I would say ignorance, incompetence, ugliness, and odor.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo !!!???
« on: October 19, 2005, 08:42:16 PM »
In Toledo 4 miles is a world away. Downtown and the areas around it are a ghost towm for the most part. Begining with the campus and everything to the west is actually pretty nice. Granted Ohio is certainly a top 5 worst state and probably the worst state in the country BY FAR. I like the school though.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo !!!???
« on: October 17, 2005, 09:11:33 PM »
Ohio SUCKS and Toledo sort of Sucks. However, Im enjoying my time here and I like the school.

I know Toledo (where I go) is in the top 10 in the country with scholarship money and you can apply online free.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else going to apply to Toledo?
« on: October 09, 2005, 08:29:16 PM »
I don't think it is unethical at all. It is crafty and if anything shows what kind of a joke rankings are to begin with. The only thing ethically that bothers me is the way they portray the program to the students in it. When I got admitted they sent me this letter that made it seem like they were doing me a huge favor by accepting me and that I had would need a light load to succeed. I thought WOW I cant believe I got into Toledo! I was expecting maybe like 20 people to be in the program, but I think it is more like 40 in it.

But yea, they are claiming 155-162 LSAT range for full time day. It makes me wonder if that will be enough to crack back into the top 100.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else going to apply to Toledo?
« on: October 07, 2005, 05:36:33 PM »
I don't think they care much because I know a lot of people here that went to small colleges in Ohio. I just think it helps you out a little if you did go to a great undergrad. As for open houses, I don't think they do, but if you contact admissions they will let you sit in on classes and tour the school. They just put you in it, but I think you could ask to be put in it after acceptance and they would do so. To be honest, it is the greatest thing in the world. Everyone in it is as happy as a pig in mud. We are getting a nice transition into law and can afford to have some free time and fun. Plus we are still ranked with everyone else so it is really nice to think that when everyone has X amount of hours to study for 4 finals we will have X amount (plus a little more) to study for 2 finals. I have no excuse to do poorly this semester.

Also it really allows you to mess around with different note taking techniques and study methods to find something that works. If I had 5 classes, it would be wasting time to tinker with things and re-read stuff, etc, but now I can really play around and find what works.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Schools you wish had law schools
« on: October 05, 2005, 12:33:56 AM »
I wish their was a tier one online law school. Id love sitting in my underwear all day.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Florida Coastal-does anyone go there
« on: October 05, 2005, 12:31:53 AM »
I thought about going there and taking the money, but I dumped the idea. I hear the facility sucks. Never been there so I may be wrong. I think their emplyment numbers are suspect also. Transfering is certainly an option though. However, I never have bought into people talking about it on the same level of cooley. I have a friend at cooley who says he feels like it is just a bunch of morons trying to live out their dream of being a lawyer. FCL probably has some half way intelligent students.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else going to apply to Toledo?
« on: October 05, 2005, 12:27:03 AM »
Im a 1L right now. Id like to know where you went to undergrad, but I would rate your chances as high to very high. I say that about undergrad because my numbers were well below yours and wayyyyyy below the means. However, I think that either my personal statement or the fact that I went to a great undergrad helped me out.

I really, really like UT law. I am a very critical person when it comes to profs and my experience with them here has been nothing short of amazing. The student body is great too. None of the snobbery that you hear about at other schools. People work hard too which is awesome because we have had a lot of fun also. Im not getting burned out at all and feel that I am on top of my classes. Last friday we had a golf outing with 72 students and everyone had a blast. I stumbled in the door at 4am. Come Sunday though, it seemed all of us were pulling an all day session at the library.

I would advise you to apply as soon as possible. Applying online is free and who knows, you might even get money on top of your acceptance. Their numbers this year are very intimidating, but trust me when I say that even though Im probably in the bottom 10% numbers wise, I never once have felt intimidated or worried about success. Numbers mean absolutely nothing once you are in and Im sure it is like that everywhere.

If you have any questions, holler. I still check the board from time to time when I am bored and not studying. It will be very interesting to see the USNEWS rankings this winter. UT has made a huge improvement. The numbers are decieving because a large number of the less qualified students (myself included) are admitted to a 1st semester part-time day program which turns full time in the winter. I suspect that is only for the purpose of upping the numbers.

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