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Long story short, if you don't care about money and want to stay in LA for a very long time then go to Loyola. If you do care about minimizing debt and maximizing job prospects then go to UC Davis. Done. 8)

NO! BAD! not wat i said  :P...maybe true to some extent, but i think u completely missed my point about how the market works...

I wasn't giving him the breakdown of what you said. I was giving him the pro's and con's that we've collectively come up with. You've made some points and others, including myself, have made other points. I was bundling them all into two sentences. In regards to how the market works, I am aware that Loyola will most likely do better in Los Angeles than UC Davis. On the other hand, UC Davis will do better everywhere else leaving Loyola in the dust. If you want to talk about schools being regional, Loyola's region is one large city while UC Davis's region is all of California.

not really...outside nor cal...u'll likely need to network or get lucky...which is true of loyola if u try to go to the bay from there

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Long story short, if you don't care about money and want to stay in LA for a very long time then go to Loyola. If you do care about minimizing debt and maximizing job prospects then go to UC Davis. Done. 8)

NO! BAD! not wat i said  :P...maybe true to some extent, but i think u completely missed my point about how the market works...

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i think goose seriously overestimates how well davis travels...it's a good school, don't get me wrong...still regional...if you want to be in socal, loyola...i'm not a spoiled brat valley girl and i didn't even apply to davis because of its location...quite simply, i don't like the desert...you may be ok with it, i don't like it...there are, however, several considerations which favor davis...first and foremost, cost...as far as how far each degree travels...seriously...don't EVER think that us news rankings will make that big of a difference between a mid/low T1 and a high T2 in terms of employment...except MAYBE for biglaw (and i stress maybe)...outside biglaw, it's networking and employer experience with alumni that counts...so in la, who do the attorneys have more experience working with? loyola or davis? which school will make it easier for you to network from? loyola or davis? i think the answer is obvious...if you are dead set on la, don't care much for the more relaxed environment, aren't as worried about the money, go to loyola...otherwise davis is probably the better choice...just prioritize what's important to you and see which school would be better...if staying in la is #1 by a ridiculous margin, then go to loyola, no question...0Ls believe way too much in rank...that's not how the market works...it does to some extent, but nowhere near the extent most 0Ls believe...

as far as loyola2L, don't pay any attention to that...first off, it's the experience of ONE student...who sounds bitter...and biased...and if i remember correctly, was dead set on biglaw so just wasn't being super realistic with their expectations going in to school...

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oh, and just an fyi...i just did a search on martindale under entertainment and sports law and tj and came up with no results...the total results for tj are pretty limited too...

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the best way to contact alums is just to find them on your own...many firm websites have attorney profiles...try to find some with tj attorneys...or, use martindale to find tj attorneys to contact (probably the best/most efficient method)...i wouldn't use the alum the school provides since i would assume they will naturally bias in favor of the school...

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i'm not sure, i don't think it's a "you must transfer after 1L" policy as much as it is a "we won't let you transfer any credits but your 1L credits" policy...in which case, if you've gone through 2L, you don't want to waste an entire year's worth of classes so i think most people just wouldn't even try to transfer at that point...

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i mean, if it's a typical campus tour (like the ones they give daily), just ask whatever questions you have...don't worry about attire or etiquette (just don't be a prick)...odds are, the person leading you will not play a role in your admission (esp. if it's a student) so to treat it as if it would play a factor into whether or not you get in would be silly...

i noticed a trend here where 0Ls think that their campus visit will make a significant some impact on their odds at getting into the school, and from my personal experience, that's so far from the truth it's not even funny...they give tours often and will barely remember your face let alone your name...and if it's a student leading the tour, even if they remember you, they can't do anything about your chances...

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yea, if they don't care where u get your jd from, u might as well just go wherever it'll be cheapest or wherever it is u'll be happiest at...of course this is assuming that there's damn near 0% chance that u'll want to do anything else...if you want to do anything else, i'd recommend against tj

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um...check out the facilities? not sure what u're looking for here...it's a campus visit...wat advice can you need? i guess the only thing is try to go when students are around...hopefully school year (which by now means august or later) so you can see how the students actually are...

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here's my question...you seem to be getting into the sports law market based on connections...do these connections care where you go to school? if not, then tj is just fine...if so...(and this is coming from someone that goes to school in SD), stay away from tj...while cal western is also a T4 in sd, their rep is in no way bad...tj, on the other hand, i can't say it's bad, but i've also heard VERY little about it...which can't be good...and, to be quite honest, i suspect people just don't want to talk down about the school

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