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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: CA schools
« on: August 07, 2007, 12:35:52 PM »
applying to them as safties is good, just don't choose them expecting to transfer to boalt or stanfurd...but i agree with the earlier poster, get your actual score first...i've known A LOT of people whose actual scores were up to about 8 points off what they were diagnosing at and no, it wasn't always for the worse...some did a lot better than their diag...diags are typically fairly accurate, but there's zero chance of knowing how you'll actually do until you actually do it...

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: scared to ask
« on: August 03, 2007, 12:22:10 PM »
don't go to law school if you're not sure u want to be there

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Law School Admissions / Re: Character and Fitness
« on: August 01, 2007, 09:45:05 PM »
my theory is that if there's no chance you'll be admitted to the bar in the state the law school is in, then they won't let u in...if they let u in, u at least have a fighting chance...

I don't think that's a safe assumption at all.

If the original poster's numbers blow the rest of his peers out of the water at certain schools (or even just help make the school's entering class numbers), the OP is probably going to be admitted if he shows to be rehabilitated, morally sound, or whatever that school is looking for.

Remember, a big part of admissions to a lot of schools is the numbers game to try and garner better rankings.

My thought is that some schools, especially less picky ones where OP's numbers look especially good, will admit the OP and then let whatever state's character and fitness do its job however it sees fit.

Besides, schools have no way of knowing what state bar students will apply to anyway.

i said "no chance"...if he shows to be rehabilitated or morally sound, then he has a fighting chance

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Law School Admissions / Re: Character and Fitness
« on: July 31, 2007, 09:37:14 PM »
my theory is that if there's no chance you'll be admitted to the bar in the state the law school is in, then they won't let u in...if they let u in, u at least have a fighting chance...why admit someone to a law school when you know they can't be a lawyer? yea yea, tuition $, but let's face it, plenty of people who can be admitted will gladly pay the tuition they would miss out on by not admitting you...

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: How Realistic is the book One L?
« on: July 30, 2007, 09:12:16 PM »
i thought ivy briefs was much more similar to my experience than one l

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Law School Admissions / Re: Character and Fitness
« on: July 27, 2007, 11:48:30 PM »
based on the little info we have, my guess is you'll be fine...to quote the barbri book for pr (i happen to be studying for my final and the mpre right now) "To cause disqualification of an applicant, the crime in question must involve moral turpitude, such as a crime involving intentional dishonesty for the purpose of personal gain (e.g., forgery, bribery, theft, perjury, robbery, extortion) or a crime involving violence (e.g., murder, rape, mayhem). The nature of the offense and the motivation of the violator are also factors in determining whether moral turpitude exists." but as they said, it depends on the individual case; it just doesn't sound like an auto non-admit to me...and yes, only the charge really matters...the classification (as a felony or misdemeanor) doesn't matter...even the conviction *shouldn't* matter as just a charge is enough..but i'm sure a conviction is BAD...i think what they mean when they say "just the charge is enough" is just if you're acquitted, that doesn't automatically mean they won't consider it...

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD vs Loyola
« on: July 25, 2007, 09:05:56 PM »
I just finished my first year at Loyola and here is my take on this issue:

Any city you go to, you are going to have to compete with the T14 schools because they can pretty much secure a job in any market, INCLUDING San Diego and Los Angeles.  Thus, just because you go to the best ranked school in the city, it doesnt mean that you have first priority when it comes to BIG LAW jobs (again you have to compete with the T14 schools). Now, aside from the T14 schools, rankings dont really matter.  What matters is the reputation of the school.  Obviously a T2 school is going to have a much better rep than a T4 school.  And the same goes for the region.  LA firms will hire Loyola grads over USD grads b/c there are simply more Loyola grads at LA firms.  I'm sure the same goes for SD firms and USD. 

If you want to live in SD, go to USD.  If you want to live in LA, go to Loyola.  But keep in mind, you probably need to finish in at least top 15% at each school to secure yourself a BIGLAW opportunity.  Otherwise, you're on your own.

My advice to all incoming 1L's: you dont have to take/buy LEEWS or study before school starts, all you have to do is keep up with your outlining, use old outlines (from the same teacher) to fill in holes in your outline, and supplemental materials help.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL



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and what's up mu? long time...how goes it?

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD vs Loyola
« on: July 23, 2007, 01:13:54 AM »
do you perfer la or sd?

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola LA vs American U.
« on: July 19, 2007, 01:51:13 AM »
the more i read these posts, the more i think that MANY on this board have either never gotten a raise or perhaps never even heard of one as it seems that they all assume what you make your first year is what you'll make the rest of your life...

What you start out making will affect your future earnings.  I'll dig up a link later if I have time, but I remember reading in a newspaper about a study showing that people who got jobs during an economic downturn (and started at a lower rate as a result) would see their earnings grow more slowly than someone who started out when times were good.

For those willing to go out on their own and build a practice, I think this may not be true.  If you're willing to start your own firm, your earnings depend on you.  But if you just want to work for a firm, I think starting salary does matter.

i agree with you here...i didn't mean to imply that low salary means nothing for your future, but i doubt that too many people who come out of law school will truly have THAT much trouble paying their school debts and end up having to live like a homeless person the rest of their lives

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola LA vs American U.
« on: July 18, 2007, 01:52:12 AM »
the more i read these posts, the more i think that MANY on this board have either never gotten a raise or perhaps never even heard of one as it seems that they all assume what you make your first year is what you'll make the rest of your life...

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