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Black Law Students / Re: So you want to be a law professor?
« on: January 28, 2007, 08:55:42 PM »
why you hatin' on Tom? :'(

Black Law Students / Re: So you want to be a law professor?
« on: January 28, 2007, 05:32:57 PM »
NOW you want me to say something? ::)

Seems most has already been said.  But, as an overall response to this thread, I would say that school, journal experience, publications, clerkship and recommendations are the most important things.  School, because generally, schools are very conservative about what they consider good schools or not.  So, if you go to a school outside of the top 15-17 schools, you will probably need an LLM in one of the teaching fellowships such as the ones at Georgetown, Wisconsin and the like.  Journal experience gives some indication of grades, and scholarly interest/potential.  Publications are important (and much more important for those that done have the JD from a high ranked school, or journal experience) as they show more than scholarly potential, but that you actually can produce high level scholarship.  A cleriship is important because it again gives indication of scholarly potential.  Recommendations are important for two reasons.  While the importance of the recommender is important, I think the unequivical endorcement of the candidate is much more important.  The recommender must speak of the candidate's ability to perform the three pillars of the academy, which are teaching, scholarship and service.  I hope this is of some help. 

Oh, and generally because getting into law teaching is such a competitive environment, most people typically cant name their starting location and often start off somewhere they had not thought they would start their career.  There are some great schools out there outside the top 14 and those schools have some fantastic professors.  If you wait around for NYU, Yale, Harvard and the like to call you for a position, you will probably be waiting around for a long time.

Black Law Students / Re: So you want to be a law professor?
« on: January 28, 2007, 10:53:28 AM »
Interesting thread.

Black Law Students / Re: Law School is REAL SON! DON'T GET IT TWISTED!
« on: November 24, 2006, 05:48:40 PM »
Whew, just finished putting together my employment discrimination exam (3 essays) and contracts (40 MC and 2 essays).  I hope they are as tough as I think they are. ;D

Black Law Students / Re: Flavor of Love
« on: October 18, 2006, 08:59:24 PM »
They are...called Flavorette.  But don't think NY was all in love with him...she just wants exposure as well.

Flav did it for exposure as well. "Love" and "exposure" aren't mutually exclusive. You can love the hell out of someone while taking advanatge of the exposure it affords you. That's just being smart. Exposure aside, she was the still the most qualified candidate IMO.

Good for NY. She'll be just fine. Flav can just move the hell on with his horny old man ways.

Hey dont knock it, there is something to be said for horny old man ways.  ;D :D ;)

Black Law Students / Re: Flavor of Love
« on: October 16, 2006, 10:20:54 AM »
Her mom was an actress????????  Really, I am serious, I thought that was really her mom.  Everyone knew he was going to select Delishis.

Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 16, 2006, 10:18:33 AM »
I would almost buy the preparing-you-for-the-courtroom argument if it were actually the case that most of these profs have actually argued in front of a judge.  They haven't.  It's more about their power trip than teaching you valuable life lessons.

And if that were to happen at my law school (I've never seen it), I don't think people would sit idly.  Lord knows they'd start some sort of protest or petition...

Brother, I can dig what you are saying except that I dont necessarily (I have been in front on a few judges) have to have been in front of a judge to prepare you for being in front of a judge.  And I dont know that we can make blanket assertions about the reason for trowing someone out of the classroom (re: power trippin').  I think you gotta know the professor and if he makes it a habit of doing that kind of thing or not and other factors that might go into that kind of decision. :-\

Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 16, 2006, 10:15:22 AM »
I can dig it.  Like I said, I think there is more than one way to handle it.  I simply mark the person absent for the day.  But that does not mean that my way is right or the only way.

Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: October 13, 2006, 04:25:57 PM »
Can you send me a copy of the letter??  And I agree with your point.

Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 13, 2006, 03:06:31 PM »
lp, go back and read the op, the student effed up and thought he'd be excused from dicussing the case but didnt realize that a book isn't necessary and got caught out there, the prof could have verbally reprimanded the student for his bs but kicking him out of class is ridiculous, if it was the second time then fine but not the first. we all know that the student feels like the size of a pea for not be prepared in the first place so kicking him out was just spiteful

there was nothing twisted about my "extreme" example i was just doing the same thing you did in regards to finally's last post on the subject. im done, no hard feelings lp...back to lurker status

No hard feelings, I respect you L. Boogie.  I just disagree with your position and you disagree with mine.  I wouldnt have kicked him out of the class personally, but just becuase I wouldnt have, does not mean that my way of handling it is the ONLY way of handling it.  I think it is crazy to not bring your book to class, but that is my opinion.  And just becuase you dont have your book in class does not mean that you did not brief the case. It seems that student was unprepared and was using the book left home as an excuse.  I have been on both sides of the law school classroom podium and I think you see things differently from either side.

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