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Black Law Students / Re: Law School is REAL SON! DON'T GET IT TWISTED!
« on: November 24, 2006, 05:48:40 PM »
Whew, just finished putting together my employment discrimination exam (3 essays) and contracts (40 MC and 2 essays).  I hope they are as tough as I think they are. ;D

Black Law Students / Re: Flavor of Love
« on: October 18, 2006, 08:59:24 PM »
They are...called Flavorette.  But don't think NY was all in love with him...she just wants exposure as well.

Flav did it for exposure as well. "Love" and "exposure" aren't mutually exclusive. You can love the hell out of someone while taking advanatge of the exposure it affords you. That's just being smart. Exposure aside, she was the still the most qualified candidate IMO.

Good for NY. She'll be just fine. Flav can just move the hell on with his horny old man ways.

Hey dont knock it, there is something to be said for horny old man ways.  ;D :D ;)

Black Law Students / Re: Flavor of Love
« on: October 16, 2006, 10:20:54 AM »
Her mom was an actress????????  Really, I am serious, I thought that was really her mom.  Everyone knew he was going to select Delishis.

Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 16, 2006, 10:18:33 AM »
I would almost buy the preparing-you-for-the-courtroom argument if it were actually the case that most of these profs have actually argued in front of a judge.  They haven't.  It's more about their power trip than teaching you valuable life lessons.

And if that were to happen at my law school (I've never seen it), I don't think people would sit idly.  Lord knows they'd start some sort of protest or petition...

Brother, I can dig what you are saying except that I dont necessarily (I have been in front on a few judges) have to have been in front of a judge to prepare you for being in front of a judge.  And I dont know that we can make blanket assertions about the reason for trowing someone out of the classroom (re: power trippin').  I think you gotta know the professor and if he makes it a habit of doing that kind of thing or not and other factors that might go into that kind of decision. :-\

Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 16, 2006, 10:15:22 AM »
I can dig it.  Like I said, I think there is more than one way to handle it.  I simply mark the person absent for the day.  But that does not mean that my way is right or the only way.

Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: October 13, 2006, 04:25:57 PM »
Can you send me a copy of the letter??  And I agree with your point.

Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 13, 2006, 03:06:31 PM »
lp, go back and read the op, the student effed up and thought he'd be excused from dicussing the case but didnt realize that a book isn't necessary and got caught out there, the prof could have verbally reprimanded the student for his bs but kicking him out of class is ridiculous, if it was the second time then fine but not the first. we all know that the student feels like the size of a pea for not be prepared in the first place so kicking him out was just spiteful

there was nothing twisted about my "extreme" example i was just doing the same thing you did in regards to finally's last post on the subject. im done, no hard feelings lp...back to lurker status

No hard feelings, I respect you L. Boogie.  I just disagree with your position and you disagree with mine.  I wouldnt have kicked him out of the class personally, but just becuase I wouldnt have, does not mean that my way of handling it is the ONLY way of handling it.  I think it is crazy to not bring your book to class, but that is my opinion.  And just becuase you dont have your book in class does not mean that you did not brief the case. It seems that student was unprepared and was using the book left home as an excuse.  I have been on both sides of the law school classroom podium and I think you see things differently from either side.

Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 13, 2006, 03:02:24 PM »
now LP, you know i think your great and are a valuable resource but i'm gonna need you to get over yourself and go back to your student years. You kick a student out of class for being an a-hole or possibly for not being prepared for a 2nd time. you're gonna have to talk about your opinons on this sitution with your peers.
You are not putting food on his table.  He is in charge of the class, and not leaving when asked to leave could get you into trouble.  Just be prepared and you wont have any problem. 

YOU students are something else.  You want the professor to teach you the subject, but control those around you that are on the internet and control the ones that ramble on something other than the subject of the course, but if he tries to exert control over YOU, you are going to break your foot in his ass.  I got some news for you, you dont run the class, the professor does.  Just like when you are in a courtroom, the judge runs the courtroom.  PERIOD!

See, I think the problem is definition of unprepared.  I dont mean a student struggles or has problems answering questions but I mean a student who does not care enough to even crak open the book.  Why whould I have to wait until the second time?  I just think that students have this sense of entitlement to which they dont deserve.  If you know the rules ahead of time, I dont see why there is a problem.  Do you think that a judge is going to give you a second time?  Your professional career starts now, not in three years.  It is bad enough where I have students coming to me to ask me to do something because students are not prepared.  Should I have to wait until students come complain about others being unprepared and not paying attention or am I allowed to take action when I think I should take action?  I think the problem is that students think the classroom is a democracy.

Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: October 13, 2006, 02:55:21 PM »
Texas Law Students Chastised for Party



Published: October 12, 2006

Filed at 10:30 p.m. ET

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- A group of first-year law students at the University of Texas at Austin has been chided by the dean for participating in a ''Ghetto Fabulous''-themed costume party and posting pictures from it online.

The party is the latest racially insensitive incident to emerge from the university, which has struggled for years to boost minority enrollment and make students of color feel welcome.

''Among the many ways to happily party in Austin, this particular one was singularly heedless and odious,'' Dean Larry Sager said in an e-mail Friday to the law school's student body.

Nick Transier, a first-year student who attended the party in September and posted pictures on his Web site, said nobody meant to offend anyone of any race.

''We had no intention by any measure to choose a group or class of people and make fun of them,'' said Transier, 26, of Houston.

But the photos -- in which partygoers carried 40-ounce bottles of malt liquor and wore Afro wigs, necklaces with large medallions and name tags bearing traditionally black and Hispanic names -- upset some black law students, said Sophia Lecky, president of the Thurgood Marshall Legal Society.

''I just thought overall that it was kind of insensitive, that it was mocking a group of people or a class of people in just a real stereotypical or negative way,'' said Lecky, whose group aims to improve the academic and social climate for black UT law students.

Sager met with about 18 students who were at the party and said he is convinced they didn't think their actions would offend classmates. No disciplinary action was planned.

Transier said he and other partygoers have apologized to members of the Thurgood Marshall Legal Society.

About 70 of UT's roughly 1,300 law students are black, according to preliminary enrollment figures. There are about 800 white students, 225 Hispanic students, 75 Asian students, 55 foreign students and 75 whose ethnicities were unknown.

Former UT President Larry Faulkner ordered sweeping changes in curriculum and culture in 2004 after a series of incidents that included the egging of the Martin Luther King Jr. statue and fraternity parties where blacks were portrayed in Jim Crow racial stereotypes.


Black Law Students / Re: Gettin' kicked outta class
« on: October 13, 2006, 02:04:38 PM »
and if we took your side to the extreme there would be no one in class to learn b/c nobody is ever going to be 100% on topics being discussed by a law prof. on any day, GET REAL

now i must blue book, lord knows y'all ain't paying my tution so my profs can have hearty meals  and i can get decent grades :D

Ok, lets take y'alls logic to the extreme.  If everyone had that same attitude, and no one decided to talk in class then what???????  No one would learn and you all would cry, this professor is horrilbe, he is not teaching us anything (like you all dont cry that anyway).  You act like you make your decisions and they have no consequences.  GROW UP.

See, dont get it twisted.  I am not saying you gotta answer all questions right or any questions right, but IF you have not read and are not paying attention because you are playing internet poker during class, that is a problem.  I am not saying that if you try and come up short you should get kicked out of class.  I dont believe that is what the OP as saying happened, at least that is not the way I read it.
I have seen professors walk out of class becuase the three people called on passed, which equates to the same thing.

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