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Notre Dame / Fall 2005 Admits [NDLS Class of 2008]
« on: April 18, 2005, 11:46:12 AM »
Just want to congratulate everyone else who will be heading to South Bend this Fall.

It may be worthwhile to meet some future classmates now so that by the time we get up to ND, we'll already know some people.

My name is G and I am graduating from the University of Florida in 12 days. I was born in Brazil and moved to the US when I was 9. I've lived in Tampa, FL ever since moving here.

I went to the Visitation Day back in February and fell in love with the school all over again. When I was a HS senior looking at colleges, I visited ND and knew I had to go there at some point. I cannot wait to get there in August.

My decision came down to Emory [w/ similar $], Minnesota, and IU-Bloomington [full tuition]. I decided that my heart was at ND and that REALLY helped with my decision.

I am wait-listed at Vandy, Georgetown, and Penn. I don't know what I'll do if any of those come through. What I do know is that it'd be a tough decision, all things considered.

That's a little bit about me.

I look forward to hearing something about others who'll be joining me at ND.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Another FSU vs. UF thread
« on: June 22, 2005, 11:14:22 PM »
Law is very much prestige-oriented. UF is still the best law school in the state of FL. Whether or not FSU will catch up, only time will tell.

As some mentioned, FSU may very well place better in government, though just because they do place a higher percentage in government does not mean that UF couldn't do the same. It could just mean that the percentage of FSU grads that want government jobs is higher than the percentage of UF grads that want government jobs. The same comment could go for law firm placement with UF placing a higher percentage than FSU.

As far as Bar passage rate, most people take a Bar Prep class that teaches the materials on the bar. Law school doesn't really teach you enough of what you need to know to pass the bar. If it did, then more 3Ls would forego the Bar Prep class and review their law school materials for the past 3 years. If you disagree with me, talk to some people who recently took the Bar and ask them if they would have been able to pass the bar without having taken the Prep class.

The fact that UF Law is older than FSU obviously means it has more graduates out there. The fact that UF has 400 1Ls each year and FSU has somewhere around 220 means that the gap is getting bigger. The more alums out there, the easier it will be to get a job. When I say this, I am referring to the average graduate. The reality is that the top 10% at both schools will have no problem. Maybe even the top 20%. But everyone else will REALLY be using that alumni network.

Finally, returning to law being prestige-oriented, if you want to take your law degree to another state, the prestige of the school will possibly determine whether or not you even get looked at by recruiters/interviewers. Having a larger alumni network also means that the likelihood that there is an alum in the state where you want to practice is higher.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Pre-LS books
« on: April 18, 2005, 12:48:35 AM »
Law School Confidential was one of the best books I have ever read about law school.

It really is a must read for someone looking for a good book on LS

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I will be joining a couple of you at NOTRE DAME.

GO IRISH!!

It really is an amazing place. Any undergrads who are reading this who are still thinking of where to apply, look into Notre Dame. I went from knowing very little to nothing about the place to falling in love with it.

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Acceptances / Re: Notre Dame -v- Tulane
« on: April 15, 2005, 06:30:55 PM »
First, both are great schools where you will surely gain a great legal education.

The reality is that in most, if not all, Top 50 law schools you will be taught the things one needs to know to be a technically sound attorney.

In regards to ND & Tulane, here are my thoughts. First, it is only fair to let you know that I will be attending ND this Fall.

When I was deciding on ND, these were some of the reasons that led me to choose ND for law.

1. I looked at their placement statistics. They place heavily in IL, CA, NY,MI, IN [perhaps other places too but these are the ones I remember off the top of my head]. For a school to place a significant % of their graduating class in those states, it surely means that the opportunities are there [that firms recruit @ ND]

2. Sorta on a similar idea as placement, ND is very much a National school. There are few places you can go where ND is not a recognized name. In terms of flexibility, a degree from ND will serve you well.

3. The alumni network is AMAZING. "Domers" are passionate about ND and would bend over backwards to help fellow Domers.

4. When I visited ND, I felt completely comfortable and at home. Everyone was SO friendly that it was hard to not fall in love with the place.

I actually looked at Tulane but decided not to apply. I wish I knew more about Tulane so I could draw some comparisons, but at the end of the day, you gotta think about what factors are most important to you and go with the school that will be the best fit. It also wouldn't hurt to visit and love the place and the school.

Good luck and congrats on both acceptances.

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