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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: How old is too old?
« on: March 09, 2004, 05:59:26 PM »
You are NEVER too old. My hubby graduated from law school in 2002 and the class before his had a 72 year old guy in it. 

As long as you're able to breathe, open a book and read, there's nothing stopping you. Keeps the mind active!  Hey, look at it this way - it's preventative medicine for Alzheimers!!  ;D 

Now, if we could only get the health insurance to pay for law school...hmm.....

Karen W.

Law School Admissions / Re: need help with odds!
« on: March 09, 2004, 02:14:28 PM »
I  would NOT leave your juvenile incident off of your application.  You're asking for trouble if you do.  Law schools are foregiving of these types of juvenile indiscretions but they will not condone lying or falsification by inadmission.

Your credentials sound great.  You get that 175 and you can probably get into the school of your choice.

Karen W.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: should I retake the exam?
« on: March 08, 2004, 12:39:53 PM »
I just got my score of 150 on the feb exam and I do not really know what to do?  ???  I should probably retake the test since I want to get in Loyola Univ in LA and their average is 157.  My GPA is 3.8.  What should I do?

If you have your heart set on Loyola, you've already mentioned what you have to do..  :)  Unfortunately, despite your great GPA, your LSAT will probably stop you.

Karen W.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Online LSATs
« on: March 08, 2004, 12:37:31 PM »
Any test prior to about '98 or '99 is not going to help you a whole lot.

Have to disagree with you on this one hookem.

Any and all tests you can get your hands on are going to help.  The more practice you do, the more familiar you will be with the question types and answer strategies, and the more 'quickly' you'll be able to recognize the correct answer.

That's just my 2 cents though.

Karen W.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Any thoughts on DePaul?
« on: March 08, 2004, 12:28:55 PM »
Um, there's this other law school in Chicago, it's called Northwestern.  :)

There's also another one called Loyola.  At least I think they both exist, since I applied to them.  Or else I just got scammed out of 60 bucks.

Anyway,  I heard back from DePaul last weekend, they're kicking in some money, but I'm still waiting to hear back from the other Chicago schools. 

Waiting - you're absolutely correct.  I had a major brain fart.

Even after posting that it donned on my that was missing at least Loyola. I just forgot to go back and edit...

I apologize for the confusion...and will shake this brain fart yet! 

Having said, that, it doesn't change what I said about DePaul above..  ;)

Karen W.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Online LSATs
« on: March 06, 2004, 07:37:48 AM »
I know you're looking for free, but don't write off ebay. (I apologize - I know I posted something similar in a different thread).  Anyhow, there is a bunch of LSAT study material on ebay cheap.  You may be able to pick up some preptests and study guides a lot cheaper than purchasing them directly from LSAC or a bookstore.

Karen W.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Online LSAT course
« on: March 06, 2004, 07:29:31 AM »
I'll be honest, I have to agree with Ivy on this one. This topic has been rehashed a number of times. And to be very honest, I'm not sure from your post what information you're looking for zesty.

But, if you have a particular course in mind, search the archives here. I can guarantee it's been discussed ad nauseum and you can probably get some good ideas.  Aside from that, use a search engine, such as and do a search for LSAT prep courses.  When you find one worth checking out, come back and check the archives for that.

Karen W.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT Advise Needed
« on: March 05, 2004, 09:15:45 PM »
Well best of luck Dante...and keep us posted!! ;D

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Any thoughts on DePaul?
« on: March 05, 2004, 09:08:16 PM »
First off, congrats! I'm still waiting to hear from them.

As for their recognition, in Chicago, they are not truly prestigious, because of the other schools in Chicago. Out of the four Chicago law schools (U of Chicago, Kent, DePaul, & John Marshall), they are ranked 3rd.  Interesting that Chicago has a law school in all 4 tiers, eh?

If you're looking to practice in the Midwest, they are probably a good bet.  The majority of their grads stay in the Midwest, most in Illinois. 

Hope that helps.

Karen W.

Law School Admissions / Re: Criminal record
« on: March 05, 2004, 08:54:14 AM »
Hello this is my first post.  I was just wondering about something that I read in a princeton review admissions help guide book.  In the book it states that someone who has had a criminal record should bring it to the attention of the school that they are applying to because having one could affect the decision of the law school that they are applying to.  If they are to have already been admitted or have graduated from law school, then the governing board for the bar might not let them practice law.  So, my question is this, I had a record when i was a minor, this was when I was 15, and it was for petty theft.  I went to a program that made minors who had been arrested for criminal acts, and after completing it, they said that my records would be sealed.  Would I have to say that I've had a criminal record before, even though my records have been sealed for 8 years now? or do I not have to stat anything.  Also, is there any way that the governing board for the bar would dig these records up? or do they not have access to them, because they were sealed. Any comments would help out a lot. Thanks. 

Regardless of whether it was sealed, you must report it.  Most applications now state that you must report anything regardless of whether or not your believe the record was expunged or sealed.

You are not going to be precluded from law school because of indiscretions as a 15 year old.  You will be precluded from practicing law if you fail to disclose information that is discovered later.

I can't speak for other states, but in Indiana, you are required to submit a fingerprint card, with your bar application, for a criminal records check.  While a juvenile arrest would not appear there, anything else would.  Failing to disclose any type of record generally can get you kicked out of law school (if you're accepted) and prevent you from being accepted to the bar.

Karen W.

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