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Karen W. - thanks for the reply.  I actually have a buddy who is at Kent now.  Yes, I'm definitely interested in her contact info.  Feel free to post it here or email me directly at  Much thanks in advance!

I did reply to you privately on this didn't I?  ??? lol..I need a nap.

Karen W.

if it was expunged, you don't have to disclose

Once again, and I'll get down off of my soapbox, if the application states to include even items that have been expunged, you must include them....

Example, here's a direct excerpt from one law school application:
B: Have you ever been or are you currently a plaintiff, defendant, or other party in any civil or criminal proceeding; any administrative or alternative dispute resolution forum; any mediation or arbitration proceedings; any traffic-related proceeding (except for parking tickets).

__ Yes __ No If yes, please explain fully, including information regarding final disposition, or current status of the matter
(including probation, deferred adjudication or any other type of pretrial diversion) on a separate sheet. You must report incidents even if the record has been or will be expunged or sealed.

In this case, you must disclose. All of my apps required disclosure.

Karen W.

You absolutely do not have to disclose anything that has been expunged or juvenile offenses for law schools.

You may have verified this with your attorney, but if the law school application specifically asks for the information, regardless of it's status, and it specifically states to include incidents that have been expunged or occurred while you're a juvenile, I hope your attorney is there to provide the tissues when you're bounced out of law school or you're precluded from being admitted to the bar in the state of your choosing.

Karen W.

About 10 years ago my wife and I had a terminally ill child.  I tried to attend college for about three semesters and pay for his medical bills.  Those three semesters I averaged a 1.8.  I had to leave school to pay off bills. 

I returned in 2002 and pulled off 3-36 hour semesters with a 4.0. I redid my entire degree.  It has gotten my GPA into a decent spot, but I am a much stronger student than my GPA suggests. 

This sounds like perfect material to be included in a personal statement.

Karen W.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: "cutthroat" competition
« on: March 21, 2004, 07:41:45 PM »

90-100 is an A, 80-90 is a B?  Whoa, did I miss something in undergrad? o.O  My Bs were more like 50-60s... ;)  Actually, law school sounds a lot like college then -- gotta love those curves.

You make an interesting point and I hope you didn't misinterpret mine.  Your comment definitely demonstrates the inherent differences between undergrad schools.

I didn't mean to say that law schools curve grades in the traditional manner that we're all accustomed to.  A professor may, given the number of students in the class, designate for 'test A', only 5 students will get A's, and then grade the papers. What happens then is a substantial number of the students end up with B's and C's.  They don't use a curve to set the grade, rather they use a curve to determine the grade.

Karen W.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Pre Law school prep courses
« on: March 21, 2004, 07:32:28 PM »
I think it really depends on your study habits.  I didn't take any courses but did study from several of the prep books out there (Kaplain's and Princeton Review's) and did well enough (164).  You might want to take several practice tests and see how you do before spending the money on the courses, imo.
Schoomp, I think you may have misunderstood the request.

There are courses out there for pre-law students offered by, for example Barbri, that are not LSAT study course, but pre-law study courses, that give already accepted students an idea of how to study in law school and what to expect.

Honestly, I've heard of the courses but never heard of anyone that took one.  Double checked with hubby (law school grad) and he wasn't even familiar with the course.

I checked out the Barbri website and looked at the pre-law prep course.  Looks like some good testimonials.  I'm just wondering though - I couldn't find a price for this course anywhere.  Were you able to locate one?  The price may be the undoing for me.

Karen W.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: expungement and law school app
« on: March 21, 2004, 07:23:44 PM »
Thanks for the advice. I am writing them a letter and I am including court records and an explanation. I am also visiting the school for their pre-law day and hopefully I can speak with someone>

I think I would make an appointment ahead of time. Just let them know that you are going to be out there for their pre-law day and make an appointment with an admissions counselor.  My guess is that their pre-law is pretty hectic for the admissions staff and making arrangements in advance to speak with someone might be your best bet.

Karen W.

Does anyone know of a reputable LSAT tutor in the Chicagoland area?  Money is no object if the quality and experience is there.  Or perhaps I need a study group? 
There is an instructor for one of the national prep courses that lives in Chicago. She is a part-time student at Chicago-Kent in her 4th year (she graduates this year).  She scored in the 98th percentile on the LSAT.  She does private tutoring. 

If you're interested, I can try to get a hold of her contact information for you.

Karen W.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: weekend prep courses
« on: March 20, 2004, 06:13:12 PM »
Any thoughts on part time weekend courses for LSAT prep? 

My opinion having taken one? It was a waste of time and money. If you're able to read a study guide and have been practicing on your own, there is nothing that they can 'show' you in that short of a time that will drastically help you. All they did was walk through the question types for each section and do a couple practice exams.  I honestly felt like I took nothing away from a weekend class, with the exception of the "10 More Actual LSAT's" that they used as a study guide - but it sure wasn't worth the $350 I paid for the class.

Karen W.

My question is...will they accept this as on oversight and not hold it against me, considering that I had an A in the class (or classes, I can't even remember if it was one or two). Or will they see it as dishonest.

They are not going to consider anything dishonest that was to your got an A in the course, correct? If you would've failed the course and then failed to mention it, that would appear as deceptive...

I would not for one second worry about a spanish class you took as a college course while you were in high school. Did it actually count as college credit?  Was this the same school that you did your undergrad? 

I'm willing to bet that you're ok on this one without another thought about it.

Karen W.

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