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General Board / Re: Easiest legal fields to get into?
« on: May 18, 2007, 11:00:00 PM »
I am always surprised when people think that PD or prosecutor's offices are the refuge of the bottom of the class.  In my experience, those jobs are quite competitive because of the litigation experienee.  I clerked at a PD's office and was quite dismayed to see the stack of resumes from top students all applying for an entry level position. 

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General Board / Re: tools, spoiled brats and jerks...
« on: July 21, 2006, 12:14:57 AM »
Like anything in the world - it is what you make of it.  If you go into it expecting everybody to be jerks, that is probably what will happen.  Keep an open mind about people.  The person I thought was really weird the first few weeks is now my best friend.  Actually, except for a small minority that you can just ignore, most of my classmates are pretty good people.  It will be OK.  Just clear steer of the super competitive ones - they are the ones that will make you miserable with their subtle put downs and superior nature.  You will figure out who they are within weeks.

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General Board / Re: How much time required?
« on: July 21, 2006, 12:11:27 AM »
I went back to finish my undergrad after 20+ years away.  I had a very tough, hard science major but even that didn't prepare me for law school - it is just different.  I do feel your pain about competeing with the youngsters that have NOTHING to be responsible for except themselves and law school.  Family obligations are hard to meet.  I have a husband and college aged son that are very committed to what I am doing and have no problems with my family.  You simply must get your family on board!  That is the only way to do it.  Many of my classmates have young families and I think the ones that are most successful are the one that have spouses/partners that are really taking on the burden of most of the day to day childcare and family stuff.  Is your husband ready for that?  Does he have any idea what this is about?  Even though your classes will end by 3, that is no guarantee you will be home.  There are study groups. research, meetings, etc.  Don't count on being able to be home early consistently. Also, that is just one semester...you have no idea what it will be like next semester or next year.  I suggest that you join a group for non--traditional law students - that is not just the "old" ones like me, it is also for ones with families, etc.  They can be very supportive and provide the social opportunities for your entire family that will help your husband realize that he is not alone and you are truly not neglecting him.  My biggest advice is to just simplify your life.  Get things like routine doctor appointments and back to school shopping out of the way.  Do not in any way shape or form accept any out of school commitments such as PTA. Keep up with your work so that you are not desperate around finals.  Be disciplined and don't let ANYONE guilt you into anything.  Most important, sit your husband down and lay it out for him. Quite frankly, I have also made a conscience decision to accept lower grades.  I have realized that I don't have to study very much except at finals to get average grades and that when I do bust my butt I barely made the top third anyway.  My life is easier now that I have accepted the middle.  Oh yeah - don't forget that summers are not time for play.  You must get internships or you will be at a terrible disadvantage when it comes to getting permanent employment.  If you would like to discuss anything, feel free to e-mail me privately.  Bottom line is, you can do it.  It won't be easy, but you can.  Don't be afraid to admit you need help and when someone offers help, take it.  One more thing - you mention you are used to a lot of reading.  That is good, but this reading is different, it is more tiresome and diffiuclt to plod through.  You are not reading for "facts" so much as reading to reach a process of analysis and learning how to (dare I say it?) "think like a lawyer".  I, too, used to be able to read and read and read.  Not anymore.  Plodding through about 50 pages a night doesn't seem like much for voracious readers, but when it is a law school casebook it is pretty tough to do day after day.  Just a warning.

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Book Sales and Trades / Re: LEEWS CD/Prime Set for sale
« on: May 15, 2006, 10:54:58 AM »
Thanks, everybody, for the offers to buy my LEEWS set.  It has been sold.

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Book Sales and Trades / PMBR Evidence CD's
« on: May 14, 2006, 06:22:54 PM »
I have 5 CD set of PMBR evidence CD's for sale.  Bought new for fall 2005 semester.  They helped a lot.  Outide of CD case has marked retail price of $50 - will sell for $25.


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Book Sales and Trades / LEEWS CD/Prime Set for sale
« on: May 14, 2006, 06:21:05 PM »
I have a like new set of LEEWS CD's with primer (6th edition) in box.  Bought new late last year for abou $150 - will sell for $75.  The copyright on outside of box is 2004.  There are no marks or writing in primer.  E-mail me.


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Book Sales and Trades / Re: Looking for Used Leews CDs...
« on: May 14, 2006, 06:17:34 PM »
I have a set of LEEWS CD's in the box with the primer (sixth edition).  Paid about $150 new for it.  It is in mint condition - no writing or marks in primer at all and all CD's included.  Copyright on outside says 2004.  Will sell for $75.00.  E-mail me.

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General Board / Re: Building outlining tool for MS Word
« on: April 24, 2006, 08:29:57 PM »
This is what makes me nuts...the "add to dictionary" feature.  We use a lot of words that word highlights as incorrect spellings.  (For the life of me, can't seem to think of one now!)  Anyway, if I add it to the dictionary, I would love that all forms of the word be added, like the plural form, etc. 

Also - when doing an outlining format...well that whole thing is just cumbersome and wish it could be a lot easier.  I made a basic document and just use that whenever I start a new outline....but it is still a pain.

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Saint Louis U / Re: SLU, anyone?
« on: April 20, 2006, 11:42:15 PM »
I am a current 2L at SLU and a lifelong resident of the area.  Feel free to e-mail me with any questions.  Some asked about the light rail near SLU. The closest Metro Link stop is the Grand Avenue stop. (Metro Link runs from teh airport by the way.)  From that you can hop a SLU shuttle to the law school.  But, the shuttle does not run all the time.  Will have to check out that schedule.  It is really too far to walk and, quite frankly, I would not like to be at that particular stop alone late at night.  Daytime is just fine. If you do not want a car and do not want to do the Lindell Towers or COronado...then I suggest an apartment somewhere in the Central West End.  You can ride the Lindell public bus line right to the door of the law school.  Most people do have cars, but I know several students who get by just fine without one.  I happen to live in Illinois, right across the river. (the MIssissippi that it.)  Anyway, during late night study sessions, I often envy those people that live in the Lindell Towers or the Coronado.  They can right over for lunch/dinner, take breaks during the day and sleep till the last minute in the morning.  In fact, I seriously considered renting an apartment there just for the heck of it...even though I live only 25 minutes away. There is also a newly renovated apartment building called the Moolah temple that is just about a block down.  Very close too...in fact, closer than most of the parking.  As far as the downtown...it has really been coming back and within a couple of years, it is going to be even better.  real Estate there is very hot right now, but there are some great rental deals.  I certainly wouldn't rule it out, especially the Washington Avenue area.

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General Board / Re: question for the female law students
« on: August 07, 2005, 12:13:47 AM »
Here's a novel way to resolve this, the same way the men do....find a husband that wants to stay at home and raise his kids. 

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