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Law School Admissions / Re: PHD or JD?! Help!
« on: August 10, 2005, 05:03:14 PM »
i was in this position (albeit in oceanography, not economics), halfway through my phd when i decided to make the switch to law.  the phd students at my institution (one of the top two in the country in my field) routinely took 6 or 7 years to graduate, only to face the prospect of at least one, and more likely 2 postdoc positions before they would be offered an assistant faculty position at some minor college in the boonies.  and while profs may get paid pretty well, postdoc salaries are averaging right around $42K right now, for a position that requires you work long hours, 7 days a week, with crappy benefits.  i figured if i had three more years of school to look forward to, i might as well have the prospect of a sweatshop biglaw position to look forward to.  if i'm going to be a slave, i at least want to get paid well.

i imagine the market's a little more forgiving to econ majors, but the academic world is oversaturated with phd's and if you're lucky enough to find a position, you usually have to take what you can get.  there's always consulting, but i think that's the mythical unicorn that all phd students hope will rescue them from their dismal job prospects.

on the other hand, i got paid $30K/year for four years with all tuition, fees, and benefits paid for to basically sit on my butt and do nothing.  so from that perspective, grad school was cool. at some point though, they start nagging you about your thesis and then you have to fish or cut bait.

seriously, though, the real reason i switched to law was that i found that the majority of professors and students on the phd track are incredibly insulated from the real world, and that the work they're doing has absolutely no relevance to most of the rest of the country.  i could take ten minutes to explain my thesis project using small words, and a 'reasonable person' would still have no idea what i was talking about, and probably not care.  at least if you're working on something for a client, theoretically that person cares about what you are doing and how well you do it.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UCLA Bound
« on: August 08, 2005, 04:10:18 PM »
yeah, i was expecting a fee increase this year, but not another one in january on top of the one they approved for fall!  i'm coming from grad school at ucsd so it's an adjustment to go from paying $6K/year in tuition and fees to around $25K just because it's a "professional" program, but still a UC.  :)  your point about the class-action suit is a good one too.

anyway, enough griping.  what section did everyone get?  i'm in 5. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UCLA Bound
« on: August 08, 2005, 09:12:26 AM »
probably the same thing that happened to the "July 21" efan notification... mine didn't show up until the 26th after a lot of phone calls.  typical ucregents stuff. 

everyone see that there will be another fee increase in january?  bringing it up to a 10% raise from when we applied.  by the time we graduate we will probably be paying MORE in total COA than a private school.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: In at UCLA
« on: August 05, 2005, 11:40:37 AM »
congrats!  see you at orientation in a few weeks :)

I was also in this situation ($30K/year renewable scholarship, top 1/2 of class to USD, 5K/year renewable scholarship to USC, no $$ at UCLA) and ended up choosing UCLA.  It was tough, but even though I would have had more or less a free ride at USD (my husband's covering the living expenses while I'm in school) I was really worried about committing to staying in San Diego for any amount of time after graduating. 

Now, I had already lived in San Diego from 2001 until this past weekend, so I knew the city before I made this decision, and knew for damn sure I didn't want to stay there permanently.  I think either of the two "big" LA schools will offer a wider range of opportunities for me, especially as I want to move back to the east coast sometime in the next 10 years. If you know you love San Diego and want to stay there for a while (I didn't) then I think USD seems to have a strong local following and could probably get you a job in town.

Just my 2 cents as someone in a similar situation.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UCLA - Where to live?
« on: July 17, 2005, 10:31:54 PM »
bumping this as well to see how everyone's housing search is going.  we just moved in to university village (ucla married/family student housing) this weekend if anyone is on their wait list or has moved in recently and wants to trade opinions!  it's ok, not as nice as the ucsd grad student housing we moved from, but cheaper and will certainly do.  tons of kids around though.  if anyone is moving to the mar vista/palms/culver city area or lives around there give a holler!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UCLA grad student housing
« on: July 17, 2005, 10:28:07 PM »
just bumping this out of curiosity -- we just moved in to university village (married/family student housing) this past weekend and was wondering if there are any other upcoming 1Ls (or current law students) are living there as well.  we don't have any kids and i'm a little overwhelmed by all the toddlers  :)

I only applied through LSDAS, and I don't think there's any downside to doing it that way.  Any supplemental or school-specific materials were just attached as word documents.  It was super easy this way plus LSDAS keeps everything in one place so if I needed to print out an app later, I knew where it was and didn't have to make copies of paper apps.

I will have a Masters degree from a US school and none of the schools asked for an official transcript.  UCLA only asked for my undergrad to be sent from the registrar -- kind of a blessing in disguise as I am having a hell of a time getting my paperwork filed for the MS.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UCLA Bound
« on: June 20, 2005, 09:18:43 PM »
It did help make our decision knowing we had the option of living cheap on rent!  I know they have a lot of vacancies coming open right now so hopefully the wait list will start moving.

Hermosa would be a tough commute for me, but my husband works in El Segundo and we're both used to living near the beach (coming from San Diego) and I actually don't mind driving in traffic too much. We looked around Torrance as well, but even inland it's still too pricey. It could be worse though -- HR at his company was recommending we check out Long Beach.   :D

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