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Current Law Students / Re: Ranking of Jobs?
« on: March 02, 2007, 05:18:03 PM »
What's up with the arrogance around here at times? It sucks.

It's just when someone asks me which is more prestigious, working for a BIG or small firm - the worst in me comes out.

Current Law Students / Re: Ranking of Jobs?
« on: March 01, 2007, 08:22:34 PM »

Job Search / Re: Bright side of Big Law rejection?
« on: March 01, 2007, 06:17:00 AM »

I am definitely going to re-apply in the Fall for a possible Summer 2008 position. I am contemplating contacting the recruiting agent before I apply just to touch base and let her know I am really interested.  I am just wondering how I would do this?

I don't think I can send a thank you letter for a rejection. Brewha you went through something similar last year, did you contact the person specified in the letter before re-applying? If so, how did you do so?


I did several things:

(1) I networked like a madman and was able to become acquainted with an attorney who was good friends with a partner at the firm.  Before I re-applied, I asked my contact to put in a good word for me with that partner - He had a half hour conversation with the partner, who in turn sent a long email to the managing partner right before I re-applied.  Networking turned out to be invaluable here. 

(2) Do as many extra-curriculars as you can.  Even if your GPA is not 4.0, if you are able to show the interviewer that you took on a good amount of responsibility while being a full time student, they might be impressed.

(3) Send the partner a continued letter of interest as well as an updated writing sample.  I contacted the person periodically throughout the year to keep my name fresh in his mind.  Don't be a pain in the ass, but let him/her know you are genuinely interested in THAT specific firm.  Tailor EVERYTHING you send him to the particular firm - which means you need to do your research.

- In short, don't lose hope.

Current Law Students / Re: Odd Dream
« on: February 28, 2007, 12:21:51 PM »
So hot.  I wonder if your students think this way about you, too?

I've learned from the master :)

Current Law Students / Re: Odd Dream
« on: February 28, 2007, 07:19:55 AM »
Wanting a child but your partner doesn't

Brewha, I'm sorry.  I'm just not ready.

** Brewha passes a large cup of jungle juice over to UChi2L **

Job Search / Re: Interview tips you wish you knew before you went!
« on: February 28, 2007, 06:20:55 AM »
I've been lucky to garner a few interviews even though I'm just skirting the edge of the top third of my class. I've had one rejection, and two more coming up. I've read through the career center pamphlets on interviewing but I feel like I can do better, I'm just not sure how.  Any tips?  ???

Don't go in the interview smelling of scotch.

Job Search / Re: Bright side of Big Law rejection?
« on: February 28, 2007, 06:17:43 AM »

Hello all,

I waited until my fall semester grades came in before applying to a handful of big law firms (about 20). I am currently a 1L and made top 10% at my school. I knew it would be a shot in the dark at big law, but I felt like applying anyway. Slowly I have been taking all of my rejections like a man.   

Today, I received one that was different than all the rest.  It seemed individualized, it stated that my accomplishments were commendable, and they really are interested in me, but unfortunately have hired all the summer associates for this summer, but strongly urged me to apply for Summer 2008.  Then, I was provided with the hiring recruiter and hiring attorney's direct email addresses and phone numbers if I had any questions.

Does this sound like they are really interested in me, or are they just trying to keep all 1L's interested in their firm for the 2L summer?

You should absolutely follow up on this next year as a 2L.  This same thing happened to me last year. I applied and they told me that they had hired all their associates as well; but they "strongly urged" me to contact the managing partner next year.  I did exactly that and received an offer yesterday.  Use the time in the interim to build your resume with extra-curriculars and follow through next year.  Don't give up hope quite yet.

Current Law Students / Re: Odd Dream
« on: February 27, 2007, 03:18:16 PM »
Clearly, the issue here is that Brewha is not yet thinking like a lawyer!

A regular person, confronted with a dream in which their teeth fell out would, of course, ponder the meaning behind the dream. What subconcious demons could be rising to the surface that are manifesting themselves in this dream? What could my dreams be warning me of?

A top-tier law student, OTOH, would view a dream like this and immediately view it as an excellent opportunity for a hypothetical. They would have this dream, wake up, and immeditely think the following:
Client Cletus S. Yokel walks into your law firm in Ames City, complaining that all of his teeth have recently fallen out. Cletus lives on the outskirts of Ames, in Hillbilly Harbor. Cletus explains that recently the Ames Corporation for Municipal Explosives (ACME) has moved next door and begun storing their spent uranium casings next to Cletus's property. One day, while searching for bait, Cletus wandered on to ACME's land through a large rift in their fence (there were no posted signs) and began gnawing on one of the shiny and glowing piece of metal he found strew about on their property. Shortly thereafter, all of his teeth fell out. You have found, through a little bit of further research, that the Fed. Govmt. uses ACME as a subcontractor. Analyze this situation using as many acronyms (incl. FTCA) as possible.

A lawyer would figure out who to sue for giving him/her the bad dream. Maybe the chinese restaurant for NIED on his stomach the previous night- the but-for AND proximate cause of the dream.


Duly noted! I have a lot to learn in the way of "thinking like a lawyer." 

Current Law Students / Re: easy to make friends?
« on: February 27, 2007, 07:05:57 AM »

(mind you, its not my ugly face, I am actually good-looking girl, but that doesn’t matter :- ). 

This may actually be a factor.  If you are a good looking girl, a typical law student may be too intimidated to approach you.  Make sure you don't seem distanced from the others in your section.  I know in our section last year we had an unusually attractive girl... she was never invited to our social gatherings either - because people mistook her shyness for an "I'm better than you" attitude.  In short, take the initiative to approach your classmates and start conversations.  Maybe even make a conscious effort to talk to someone you have never talked to before each day.  Hope this helps.

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