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Job Search / Re: Stats for DOJ Honors and Clerking
« on: December 04, 2008, 06:28:10 AM »
what they look for is 1L/ 2L jobs that are not big law but public interest as well as prior experience. With the exception of tax this will be true across the board. I am currently in the DOJ through the honors program and was informed during my interview that while they give offers to those with biglaw clerkships, they need to have stats above that of the average candidate and some reason why they took big law instead of government opp. The interviewer recognizes, of course, that a firm summer position pays more - but that is true for the job as well. As for your stats - if you are in the top 1/3 of a T-14 with secondary journal you will be competitive. 

Current Law Students / Colorado market
« on: April 29, 2007, 03:38:25 PM »
I really enjoy Colorado, and am considering moving there after graduation. Does anyone have any idea as to the legal market for small, medium or large firms, or just overall?

Current Law Students / Re: First Kiss
« on: December 03, 2006, 09:52:58 AM »
In law school? yes.

Current Law Students / Re: Have a bit of a Problem...what to do?
« on: December 03, 2006, 09:52:13 AM »
     I have found that the key is finding a way to create an outline that will work for you - I personally try to write all my notes in rough outline style throughout the semester, and divide them up by section instead of by day, which seems to allow me to create an outline quicker. I would look principally at your notes for outline structure, especially for Civ. Pro. because each professor teaches it their own way, and often times use different terminology for the same subject. This isn't as true for torts, where every class teaches basically the same material, in basically the same order. This is not to say that commercial outlines aren't extremely helpful for the details, they are, but the STRUCTURE of your outline, and how you view the subject conceptually, should come from either 1) the course outline (best bet) or 2) the casebook. Just my two cents - you def. have time to outline and while the best outliners might take 4 days, you can put together a respectable outline in 1-2 days.

Current Law Students / Re: your school decision
« on: November 18, 2006, 01:45:03 PM »
Happy here at Tulane, thought about transfering after the storm but loved the school and the $$$ they were giving me to much to leave

Current Law Students / Re: Wonderful Dilemma: JAG v. $$ Firm
« on: November 16, 2006, 07:44:22 AM »
To be honest, so am I, the best answer that I got was from my professor who was a former (Army) JAG. According to him your decision is based largely on your 30 minute interview with the recruiter, unless you do an internship. The internship will give you a slight advantage - he described it as the equivlant of 15 points out of 100 - but most importantly they will count the opinion of your supervisor during the summer higher then that of the recruiter. I personally would prefer to be judged on 10 weeks of work rather then 30 minutes of talking - just two easy to make a mistake. I understand how important to money can be, beleive me I bought a house down here in N.O. 30 days before the storm (aren't I the smart one?) so if you really have no choice because you need the money then go for the firm. But be aware of what the costs are. Last year I belive that the acceptance rate for AFJAG was something like 10% (with some having natural advantages such as prior service, summers, ROTC . . . the numbers would be much lower if you went to the firm).

Current Law Students / Re: Low GPA Mitigation??
« on: November 16, 2006, 07:33:52 AM »
A lot of top schools say they won't give interviews but if you show up for a "tour" you should be able to meet with the admissions councilor who will be deciding whether or not to let you in. Because of your unique resume, if you can get them to look beyond your numbers you should be fine. Further if you are dead set on going to a top five school (which is not the end all be all that some posters make it out to be) then you should look into a Masters degree first. While there is a lot of talk about whether it is a waste of time because of graduate school grade inflation, I have found it helps. My roommate only got admitted to lower Tier 2 schools right after undergraduate so he went back to GW for a masters, got a 3.6, and a year later is at Duke Law.

Current Law Students / Re: Wonderful Dilemma: JAG v. $$ Firm
« on: November 15, 2006, 09:24:07 PM »
For the most part almost all the arguments for going to the firm are valid. My only problem is that they are looking at it only as a choice between two firms. If you are like most people who want to go into JAG you are not doing it for the money (despite the decent salaries we will never make what our private counterparts will while we are in the service - what you can make when you get out is a whole new ball game). If you know/ are pretty sure that you want to do JAG you should take the internship. First, I agree with GWU09 about the programs he was talking about. I did a similar program with the ATF it was all fun and no reality. However the two JAG interns that I know have both said that the JAG internship was different. Second it really is competitive. The problem isn't that it is as hard to get into as a big firm - it's not - but you only have one shot. The AF only take 120-150 lawyers, and without the summer internship you are going to be competing with 62 other students with internship experience. Additionally with those students participating in the FLAP, the 1 and 2 year program . . . I would imagine that the number of vacancies open to an applicant is significantly lower then the 120-160 number.

Transferring / Re: Transfer East v. West. A little enlightenment?
« on: November 15, 2006, 03:20:25 PM »
As far as chances, if you are in the top 20% you stand a good chance - I cannot speak to % chance but I go a similarly ranked school (Tulane) and a couple of my friends last semester were able to transfer to a T20 school being in the top 20%. If you are not from Cali, your chances will be much better at USC.

Transferring / Re: Transfer East v. West. A little enlightenment?
« on: November 15, 2006, 01:46:50 PM »
It will really depend on the school and your reason for transferring - you will want to think of a reason better then I realized this wasn't the school for me and yours is better. The more personal you get the better your chances are regardless of your rank - that means that if you can start contacting the admissions people personally you will be better off.

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