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Studying for the LSAT / LSAT Pickup Lines
« on: September 20, 2006, 01:26:39 AM »
Right about now begins the LSD tradition of the posting of pre-LSAT, anxiety release, semi-off-topic threads. Let the festivities begin...

So you are in a bar or whatever, after spending the previous X months and weeks immersed in LSAT study. You see some hot girl or guy you wanna hook up with. Share your conversation starter.

I'll start:


General Off-Topic Board / which sports car are you?
« on: September 11, 2006, 08:35:30 PM »

take the test and find out:

i'm a ferrari 360 modena! woot!

a red one, of course.

You've got it all.  Power, passion, precision, and style.  You're sensuous, exotic, and temperamental.  Sure, you're expensive and high-maintenance, but you're worth it.

yeah baby yeah!

Studying for the LSAT / Might I Suggest...
« on: September 09, 2006, 02:31:45 PM »
...trying a cool LSD function that might help you find the answer you need before you even have to ask. 'cause peeps really get to hatin' on linking and answering the same question over and over and over and over.

it's called the SEARCH function. yay search function!

for example, i just plugged in RC and pulled up four pages of links to great -- ok, and some not so great -- tips on rc, culled from all 500 pages of the lsat board.

try it. please?

Studying for the LSAT / On Circular Reasoning
« on: September 07, 2006, 09:38:59 AM »
these animation folks are trying to make a point about a certain segment of followers of a certain religion, but c'mon, as lsat people, we know what's really important here.

(you might want to turn your computer's sound down or off. js.)

Studying for the LSAT / Stephen Colbert on Percentages and Surveys
« on: August 16, 2006, 01:12:26 PM »
surveys, percentages, and statistics are difficult elements of the lsat to understand and master. let political humorist stephen colbert help clear things up for you...

from the 2006 white house corrspondent's dinner:

...i know there's some are polls out there that say this man has a 32 percent approval rating. guys like us don't pay attention to the polls. guys like us know polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in reality. and reality has a well known liberal bias. president, pay no attention to the people who say the glass is half...empty. 32 percent means it's actually 2/3s empty. there's still some liquid in that glass is my point, but i wouldn't drink it; the last third is usually backwash.

... so don't pay attention to the approval ratings that say that 68 percent of americans disapprove of the job this man is doing. i ask you this: does that not also logically mean that 68 percent approve of the job he's not doing?  think about it!  i haven't!

now isn't that better?  ;D

[Awwww all my LSAT Board buddies from June 06 test are over here now. :( The LSAT Lounge is still available to you for LSAT/application discussion and off-topic convo...drop by for a drink and some conversation. Open to all of LSD - 24 Hrs.,66177.0.html]

Just got this email yesterday.  This may be of interest to those who want to teach for TestMasters but didn't hit 99% in June. Email them at:

We recently changed our minimum instructor LSAT score requirement from the 99th percentile to the 98th percentile for all TestMasters locations, with the exception of New York and California. Therefore, if you scored a 170 or a 171 on the June 2006 LSAT and are interested in teaching for TestMasters in any state other than New York or California, you are now eligible to apply. The application deadline for teaching summer classes is Monday, July 3rd, so please forward me your scoresheet and resume if you would like to apply for the position.

[Choose as many as apply, but please be as specific as you can; obviously, we can't do everything.]

I'm slightly amending the OFFICIAL CHAT THREAD, to allow you to impact the format and direction of the group, and specify in detail what you'd like to discuss. It's your group, not ours. (And because I keep getting contacted with questions about it, consider this is the Official Liz info dump.)

I also need to change one of the details, as there are a couple AIM lSAT chats going on this Sunday; we don't all want to collide in the same room.

6pm PST - 9pm EST

To find the chat room, go to:

...and do a search for the room LSD LSAT

NOTE: If you have trouble finding us, by all means, send me or crooks an IM.


The prep test schedule, should you choose to follow it, is in the following link,65983.0.html

I've set up some poll options based on my own study this week to begin getting a sense of what you guys want out of the group and start a discussion. This is your group, after all. I'm just along for the ride. I chose some general topics that may be of common interest, especially for those just (re)starting as I am.

How do you want the chat discussion structured, if at all?

Do you want to use the set testprep schedule, or bring your own questions?

Do you want to focus on one type of section?
Do you want general discussion topics on section strategy?
Do you want to discuss specific questions from prep tests?
Do you just want to let things go where they go?

I've done these chat groups a couple of times, and have found some recurring problems. I'm going to suggest some ground rules that may make things work a little smoother.

You don't have to follow the schedule to join in the chat:
If you wanna just hang and chillax, that'll be swell. I imagine the retakers, should any join, will much feel like thinking LSAT strategy just now.

Join anytime:
You don't have to be there at a=every chat (hell, I'm not), or be there from the start of the session or stay till the end. Come and go as you please

Rotating moderators:
I will not always be available, and I'll bet crooks won't either, and last time I did this for an entire span of time I burned out. You probably will too. Someone is needed to keep the ball rolling  keep some some sense of order. We will need some volunteers.

The time and the place will posted, but it's up to you to get there:
The chat invitation thing is a pain in the ass, especially now that it seems, according to chewy, that anyone with AIM can access a newly created chat room.

We need an EXPERT!:
If anyone with solid knowledge of the LSAT who is/are able to explain specific test questions and/or strategy would be willing to participate, even if you wanna plug a business or product very subtly, will be most welcome.

Let the person speak!
Try not to bust in while someone is holding the floor, especially if an explanation id being given. Let the questioner decide who to listen to.

One at a Time, Please!
Let everyone have their turn in the sun before  asking another.

Try to stay relatively on point:
I'm not going to shake a ruler at you, but it can get very crazy and derail entirely if a topic dominates for too long or discussion topic the goes too afield.

We need an internet whiteboard for games discussions.

Does anyone know of opensource whiteboard software and/or enough ebspace to host it? I'll research this the coming week.

Here's a question for you all:

             What type of study/testing did you do this week?

Studying for the LSAT / Liz's LSAT Lounge Redux
« on: June 28, 2006, 08:15:07 PM »
The LSAT Board clearly needs its very own on- and off-topic, 24-hour hangout space for goofing off and not bothering the extremely serious study people. And now we can be just as cool as the big kids of the Off Topic Board!

All LSD members are welcome. Regular posters will have their elite status immortalized by inclusion in the membership roster. This prestigious honor is suitable for inclusion in sigs, resumes, and extremely thin law school apps.

It's up to you guys. The thread will be what it will be and go where it goes and does what it does. If it goes at all and doesn't drop to page two. It's to you guys. At least occasionally, very occasionally, try to talk a little on LSAT so this doesn't get moved to the OTB?

Are you kidding me? Only one firm suggestion or request from me: Don't post personal, off-line information about another poster without their approval, whether given in confidence in private or as the result of stalkerish Googling. Yes, I'm thinking about what c00kie did to Bucky.

Flames? It'd be nicer for everyone if it was kept fun and light or intellectually stimulating, but it will be what it will be...just try not to get it locked or moved to the Drinking the Haterade board.

The Poll:
A new poll will be periodically posted, probably when the thrill wears off from the last or some juicy
topic comes up.

Liz's LSAT Lounge - Offcially Approved by An Atypical Brittany

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(c'mon guys, help me think of some more ridiculous honorifics and titles)
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The Latest Off-Topic Poll:

meh, i don't care enough to update this thing...

This is an interactive FAQ for LSD's LSAT students'--both self-study and prep course--reference. If you have anything to add or correct, please post. If you have any questions, post them and someone will answer them. Do a search on the word GUIDE to pull this FAQ up in the will pull up some other helpful stuff too.

I'm no expert on anything, but as I am the one to start the thread, I'll go first.  ;D

Reference: The Powerscore Logical Reasoning Bible; Chapter Six, pgs. 115-170

Some Common Confusion over Conditional Reasoning Concepts Clarified...I Hope

1. The sufficient condition NEEDS, REQUIRES and GUARANTEES the occurrence of the necessary condition

Paris Hilton REQUIRES parties. If Paris Hilton has a free evening, then she will attend a party.

PH ---> P

2. The necessary condition does NOT require the occurrence of the sufficient condition
The necessary condition may or may not occur proximate to the occurrence of the sufficient condition

A party may occur with or without Paris Hilton. Some parties are not to Paris's taste. A 5 year old's party would probably not indicate the occurrence of Paris Hilton's presence. A retirement party for an insurance company salesman would probably not indicate the occurrence of Paris Hilton.

3. Think of the common uses of the terms when evaluating statements for the presence of a conditional relationship.

Sufficient = Enough
Necessary = Required for...

B is necessary (required) but not sufficient (enough) for A

A party is necessary (required) for Paris Hilton, but it's not sufficient (enough); Paris also requires designer clothes, paparazzi attention, a vapid sidekick as an accessory, a teacup dog wearing clothing as an accessory (Liz has a new idea for an avatar!), the use of the phrase: "That's hot", a Bentley, $$$$$, and many, many, many, more things.

4. The sufficient condition does not cause, but indicates or signals the occurrence of the necessary condition.

There is no cause and effect relationship between the sufficient condition and the necessary condition. The necessary condition can occur before, concurrent with, or after the sufficient condition.

5. Memorizing lists of conditional indicator words is necessary but not sufficient

You must memorize the indicator words, but you need to understand the relationship between the sufficient and necessary conditions. Only one indicator word may be present, so you need to have a full understanding to identify conditionality.

If Paris Hilton is in town, one can expect a hot party will happen.

"One can expect" is not any list of indicator words but it introduces the necessary condition.

[more to come]

Because peteyjones is driving me and probably everyone else batshit by posting the following in multiple threads, please, someone, anyone, put me all of us out of our misery by answering the following.

Hey i dont know who to ask this, i dont know if im posting or just replying to someone, but I'm wondering about the RC section, with the last passage on science, i didnt have time to do it, but guess all C's.  Does anyone know/remember if any/alot of those answers were C.  Hey if im just replying to you, do you mind posting my message in the general post for everyone to see and potentially reply? Thanks alot.

                                                            - peteyjones13

I can't help because this test will be a disgnostic for me, so I can't spoil it by knowing details. I already know there're questions about maize/corn, photosynthesis, centaurs, and weapons v. tools, and that's as far as I want to take it.

I thank you all in advance.

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