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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Email...
« on: June 18, 2008, 02:40:23 PM »
How can the scale be made in advance? Surely the way it works it is figured out based on how difficult, those taking the test, found it to be? If the absolute best score on the test is 95/100, then surely a 180 should be 95 non? Or will that sort of issue merely be reflected in percentile? I didn't think it was arbitrarily made based on how difficult they thought the test would be, but rather, how the difficult the test actually was. I re-read the little thing in the intro that talks about this but all it talks about is score bands and SEM and accuracy coefficients or something like that. If it's pre-determined, that may kind of suck.

Well the LSAC has a reputation to uphold of consistency. That means a 170 in June 2008 means the same level of competence as a 170 in February 1995. So if they based it on how people did, that means that if everyone was dumb one year (hypothetically) and the curve was ridiculous, then a 170 that year would not equal a 170 in a prior year.

That's why I'm sure they determine the curve beforehand, based on experimental sections and how they feel the level of difficulty is. They spend millions doing research into this kind of stuff to develop a bell-curve for each test that very accurately correlates the difficulty to the curve.

So I'm hoping that the trend is a 89-91 for 170. I think last June's 92 for a 170 curve was ridiculous because they were experimenting with the comparative passages and therefore made the LG and LR easier to compensate. I've got a good feeling that this curve will be -10 or even -11 for a 170 because the RC was tougher than usual and the LGs were not as straightforward (vertical linear games haven't been thrown into a test for a long time) Not to mention that the LR was not as easy (there were at least 4 tricky ones where the credited answer is the least wrong choice)

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Don't forgets for Monday...
« on: June 15, 2008, 10:46:43 PM »
I just printed my LSAT ticket and it say to
report no later than 12:30pm

I thought this was a morning exam

has anyone checked the time on theres ?

June LSAT is always an afternoon exam

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Prep 53: 4- 21, 25
« on: June 14, 2008, 06:12:25 PM »
21. You're trying to weaken an argument. There are many ways to do this, one of which is to prove that the same premise can lead to the opposite conclusion.

For this argument, the premise is that there are great differences and thus the author must not be the same poet.

C weakens this because it has a similar premise: great differences, but an opposite conclusion; they are authored by the same person.

D completely shifts the scope of the argument.

25. What is the question stem?

fyi these are not questions from pt 53 

Studying for the LSAT / Re: hard test, harsh scale
« on: June 08, 2008, 02:59:41 PM »
June 2007 has the hardest scale of any test in the history of the LSAT.

December 2005 had a harsher scale

June 2007 92/100 to get 170
December 2005 93/100 to get 170

Well, I just came from doing a proctored diagnostic in L.A.

I'm not sure how to interpret my score, but I went up 9 points for a 174 (the test didn't have an experimental, but exhaustion wasn't a factor today).  I can't tell if it was just a fluke, or if studying + a few days rest helped me, along with the motivation of taking it in under testing conditions.

I'm not sure if I should wait 2-3 days before taking another diagnostic, or just study over the next week before I take another proctored diagnostic on Saturday (5 sections, testing conditions and all).

Any thoughts?

you're probably at the point where rest would do you more good than studying. I say enjoy your score, be confident in yourself and repeat the next time you take a proctored exam. If you want, just to keep yourself sane, you could do a few sections here and there for fun but I think resting your brain and keeping your nerves down is going to help you more than anything else. 

Studying for the LSAT / Re: any recomendation on energy drinks?
« on: May 27, 2008, 11:13:01 PM »
5 hour energy.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to improve RC?
« on: May 19, 2008, 11:35:07 PM »
well, I redid the passages in PT 46 (My brother graded it and I didn't review it or mark which ones I got wrong) and I only got 1 wrong this time doing this new approach as compared to 9 wrong the first time.

Granted, I just did the PT this afternoon (so it definitely was a lot easier read the second time), it still felt great and I was surprised how careless I was reading the answer choices.

I think not underlining as much made things easier because I didn't have to stop and I was actually reading instead of simply looking at the words and underlining them. Plus, it made me focus less on details and more on the conclusion and how the paragraphs fit into the conclusion.

I have, though been underlining the main thesis (or whatever is the most salient info) of each paragraph and little key words in each paragraph and that's been good too.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to improve RC?
« on: May 19, 2008, 09:43:26 PM »
Thanks LSATHell

I'm gonna focus on reading the passage a little faster, but without skimming and focusing strictly on the main point of the passage and how the rest of the article fits into the conclusion.

Then with that idea in mind, I'm gonna practice pre-phrasing answers to eliminate choices and work quickly through the questions. For the one's I am unsure of, I will box them and check back with the passage after i finish all the questions in that passage.

Ideally I want to finish the RC section with 3-4 minutes just in case there is a really difficult passage that I might need to re-skim through.

Thanks. That was very helpful.

How can I tell the difference? Do subsidiary conclusions always have a standard "thus" or "therefore" clause  and premises do not?

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