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Wait List / Re: cardozo waitlist
« on: April 29, 2005, 04:15:08 PM »
and what do i say at the interview

Treat like any interview wherein you have a chance to "sell" youself as an applicant. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Fordham finally updated
« on: April 29, 2005, 04:12:17 PM »
Status checker updated again. I was waitlisted! No surprise!

Did Chalmer actually call you back? 

Waitlisted is probably not too different from bieng pended, right?   :)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: UMich vs Duke vs UCLA
« on: April 29, 2005, 04:05:15 PM »
I would go with either Michigan or Duke. 


I guess you all do not think UCLA is a good choice if I am not sure I want to work in CA and I am interested in academia?


BTW, where are you going? 


Did you "borrow" the breakdown from the Susan Estrich (spelling?) book? 

In any case, I agree with you on the general uselessness of drawing fine distinctions among law schools and on the inadvisability of relying on some surveys to make your final law school enrollment decision. 

To quote the managing partner (Harvard Law grad and Supreme Court clerk who has made hundreds of hiring decisions over the past twenty-five years) of a Vault 10 law firm (with whom I spoke this past Sunday about my law school choice), "between Northwestern and Michigan [you can substitute other top programs here], there is absolutely no right or wrong school decision.  With schools of this caliber how far you will go in your career depends entirely on you the person rather than the name of your alma mater.  Do not let a so-called "objective" ranking table make your decision." 


I guess as long as people know that Michigan's reputation and placment is more comparable to Columbia and NYU than to Duke or Northwestern, the above advice is fine -- someone who does well at Duke or Northwestern, and works hard thereafter, will in fact do better than someone who does poorly at Columbia or NYU (or Harvard), and slacks thereafter.


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Wait List / Re: cardozo waitlist
« on: April 29, 2005, 04:03:53 PM »
what can i do to try to get accepted. i applied for pt with 157 lsat and 3.88 gpa,any hope?

Try to get an interview with Rob. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: WUSTL or W&L with money?
« on: April 29, 2005, 03:41:30 PM »
I have the standard 11.5k scholarship from W&L (with their low tuition and low CoL it's a significant difference of $$$). Nothing, so far, from WUSTL. If I want to work in biglaw in the northeast after graduating, or government jobs with an international twist, where do you recommend, especially given location isn't a big factor, i think i'll like both places just fine....

W and L. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: HELP: NYU v. Penn
« on: April 29, 2005, 03:35:20 PM »
I'm trying to decide (a bit last minute) between NYU (with little $) and Penn (with a lot of $$$).  Thoughts?


Penn and use the savings to buy something you enjoy. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: UMich vs Duke vs UCLA
« on: April 29, 2005, 03:31:12 PM »
BTW, where are you going? 


Did you "borrow" the breakdown from the Susan Estrich (spelling?) book? 

In any case, I agree with you on the general uselessness of drawing fine distinctions among law schools and on the inadvisability of relying on some surveys to make your final law school enrollment decision. 

To quote the managing partner (Harvard Law grad and Supreme Court clerk who has made hundreds of hiring decisions over the past twenty-five years) of a Vault 10 law firm (with whom I spoke this past Sunday about my law school choice), "between Northwestern and Michigan [you can substitute other top programs here], there is absolutely no right or wrong school decision.  With schools of this caliber how far you will go in your career depends entirely on you the person rather than the name of your alma mater.  Do not let a so-called "objective" ranking table make your decision." 


I guess as long as people know that Michigan's reputation and placment is more comparable to Columbia and NYU than to Duke or Northwestern, the above advice is fine -- someone who does well at Duke or Northwestern, and works hard thereafter, will in fact do better than someone who does poorly at Columbia or NYU (or Harvard), and slacks thereafter.


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Where should I go next fall? / Re: UMich vs Duke vs UCLA
« on: April 29, 2005, 03:09:52 PM »
Did you "borrow" the breakdown from the Susan Estrich (spelling?) book? 

In any case, I agree with you on the general uselessness of drawing fine distinctions among law schools and on the inadvisability of relying on some surveys to make your final law school enrollment decision. 

To quote the managing partner (Harvard Law grad and Supreme Court clerk who has made hundreds of hiring decisions over the past twenty-five years) of a Vault 10 law firm (with whom I spoke this past Sunday about my law school choice), "between Northwestern and Michigan [you can substitute other top programs here], there is absolutely no right or wrong school decision.  With schools of this caliber how far you will go in your career depends entirely on you the person rather than the name of your alma mater.  Do not let a so-called "objective" ranking table make your decision." 


Go out and talk to some people (like prelaw advisors) and you will find PLENTY of applicants denied at Duke/Georgetown/Cornell and accepted into Michigan. 

Parsing over surveys is frankly silly (be it US News or Leiter or whoever else). 

Harvard, Yale and Stanford sit atop the list, followed by NYU, Columbia.  The rest of the "top" programs are grouped together (UVA, Michigan, Northwestern, Cornell, Duke, Penn, Georgetown). 



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If you are sure to work in a big law firm in New York, play it safe and go to NYU.  You will earn back the $$$ quickly.   

Do you mind sharing your numbers (they must be wonderful)? 


Now I really don't know what to do.  I got a full ride with a stipend at Wash. U.  I am seriously considering it.  I have it down to Cardozo full tuition, NYU in A LOT OF DEBT, and WASH U.  I want to work in New York, but it's not the end of ym lfie if I don't end up there.  I am interested in working in big cities: chicago, dc, ny.  Right after school, I mgiht need to go to CT so I can be close to my boyfriend, whoc is finishing his PHD at Yale.  I know there are mixed reviews on this board about WUSTL- some people liek ti, some say it's overrated.  I liek St. Louis, so it's not an issue.  I am worried about placement.  However, given placment drawbacks is it worth the price (free)?  I would like some feedback and advice ASAP since I need to let Cardozo know very soon abotu their scholarship. 

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What about international law, which school is better?

The main reason I am choosing Duke is its international program. 

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