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Current Law Students / Re: which is harder?
« on: December 14, 2006, 04:31:24 AM »
Dismissing the professor makes a lot of this irrelevant.  It's such a big factor in whether or not a class will be good.  Having to self-motivate yourself for an entire semester is very draining.  You always want a professor to pick up some of the slack in that category.

If you put a gun to my head, I would say probably contracts.  But I don't think you'll have any sort of real advantage or disadvantage.  If you think you're in the easier course, any advantage you have will easily be gone if you decide that means you can slack even a little bit.

Current Law Students / Re: Anyone else feel like exams were too easy?
« on: December 14, 2006, 04:24:52 AM »
Sometimes you get that feeling.  I finished an exam yesterday really early.  When I was done writing, I looked at the clock and couldn't believe how much time was left.  I re-read the exam, added a citation or two, then finished the exam.  I'm still a little concerned, but the blinding flash of insight about the huge thing I forgot to write about hasn't come.  I honestly don't know what I would do differently.  By my own system, I'm pretty happy with my performance.

Current Law Students / Re: Playing job offers against one another
« on: December 13, 2006, 08:08:29 PM »
I'm a 2L, so I'm no rockstar.

I certainly didn't mean to sound like I don't appreciate the comments, especially the positive ones that create some hope of some possible points.  So thanks! I'm just exhausted at this point, mentally and physically. Not that I haven't dealt with a tough cirriculum before. I mean we all are probably use to tough academics, whether in undergrad or now.  Hell, nothing I'm doing now is any more difficult than undergrad, per se  ;) But the difficulty with law school is this grading system of one final and a ridiculous C curve (at most schools)...not to mention some really not so nice students.

All the more reason to let this test go.  It's a waste of precious energy, and if you're done with exams, it's just extending the pain longer.

Current Law Students / Playing job offers against one another
« on: December 12, 2006, 12:48:22 PM »
Here's my situation.  I received a job offer.  I asked for some time to think about it and was given until the end of the week.  However, there's a firm I would rather work for which has yet to get back to me.  The end of the week will be two weeks after the interview.

Here's my question: Is it good manners to let the preferred firm know that I (a) have an offer, (b) would rather work for them, and (c) how have some sort of deadline?  Is e-mail or phone better for something like this?  Any idea how to phrase it?

Also, say Firm B (the preferred firm) says it's going to be, for instance, the end of next week.  What is the best way to ask for an extra week from Firm A (the one that gave me the offer)?  Should I say I'm waiting on another interview I went on?

This is precisely why you don't do this to yourself, ajstyles.  You already had convinced yourself you got the question wrong, then when people explained it to you and offered reasons why you might be ok, you dismissed it.

If you're positive you got one question wrong, then fine, you missed one.  A's are very difficult to get in law school, but 100%'s are impossible.  If the difference between passing and failing is this question, then kudos to you for being surrounded by geniuses.  But you really shouldn't put yourself through this.  Because instead of being reassured, you now say "Well I heard more arguments for my theory, they didn't sound good, so now I'm REALLY sure it was wrong."

Just remember, in many court cases there is a lawyer who is making arguments that have a 1 in a million chance of succeeding.  Law professors recognize that and thus do award points for the quality of argument that you make.  So wait until the thing is graded before writing off a question.  It's over now, there's nothing you can do about it, and obsessing over the question can only hurt you.  In fact, obsessing over the questions you are sure you got right can only hurt you too.

Current Law Students / Re: People asking for copies of my outlines...
« on: December 12, 2006, 05:50:27 AM »
In my opinion, the best price you can exact is to demand an explanation.  When someone says (in not so many words), "Hey, can you give me a piece of work that took you hours to make without me offering anything in return?" ask them why.  Try to do it with as much friendly curiosity as possible.  Basically, you say to them "Sure, you can have the outline as long as you let me know whether you want it because you're a gunner, or you're lazy."  They'll get what they want, but it forces them to reflect on what they're doing.

BTW, don't simply discount someone who asks for an outline.  People learn and study in different ways.  I'm sure there are people out there who can learn and review the material very effectively by forcing themselves to understand someone else's outline.  It requires you to approach the course in a different way than you might have done it, and that can be very valuable.

You can't make a sheet for everything.  You'll have to look at old practice exams and see what the professor focuses on.  Make checklists for everything that comes up often.  And make them for basic things, like personal jurisdiction.

Current Law Students / Re: Top 10%
« on: December 09, 2006, 06:36:42 AM »
COMPLETELY depends on the curve.  A lower curve will result in the top 10% having "lower" grades than the 10% at a school with a higher curve.  On a B/B+ curve, 10% will have mostly As and a few high Bs (my guess, and this is completely a guess, is that a 3.6 would be near the bottom of the top 10%)
On a 2.9-3.1 curve (so a B curve), it's about a 3.5.

I took my first final on Wednesday, Civ Pro, and have honestly not managed to think about my answers to the questions at all.  I don't think it will be so easy after my contracts final tomorrow though, because that's the class I've put the most work into, and our prof basically told us she puts way more issues into her questions than we'd ever have time to fully discuss.  I'm not sure whether this makes me feel better or worse.
It should make you feel better.  After the exam, when you're still coming down from the "high," repeat that mantra to yourself.  "It was impossible to hit everything."  Believe me, if you have two more finals coming up, how you deal with the aftermath of a test like this could decide how where you're going to be at the end of the semester.  A lot of people can get shell-shocked by something like this, and let it affect them in later exams.  Don't let it be you.

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