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Current Law Students / Re: Work and School
« on: June 20, 2007, 06:32:51 AM »
Don't let law school run your life. By all means work hard but don't freak out!  :D I would suggest having an intimate  working knowldge of what kind of student you are, how you learn, what works best for you and making sure you DO THAT. Don't feel like you have to be in the library at all hours because other people are there or study in groups because other people do it. Do what works for you and your family...its totally possible to do well on terms that work for YOU. 

This is advice everyone should take to heart.  I think this is one of the biggest things that seperates who does well in law school vs. who struggles.  Knowing how you learn is so important.  If you don't know how you best retain and apply information, and you respond by simply working harder, you still won't be learning the material very well.  You might memorize every word from every case, but when it comes time to apply those case to a fact pattern, if you don't really understand them you won't do well on the test.

So take a while to think about what has really worked in the past.  Don't just focus on school settings, think about how you've learned anything, from how to hit a baseball to how to change your oil, or how to bake a cake.  Auditory vs. visual vs. haptic is one part of this.  Better with outlines and bullets or with prose?  Typing or handwriting?  The quicker you can pick up on these things and design your study habits around them, the better off you'll be.  Not just because you'll be learning more.  But also because you'll have less stress and more confidence that you really know the material.

Current Law Students / Re: Is 2L really easier?
« on: June 15, 2007, 04:59:57 AM »
If you want to substantially raise your GPA, you have to take a lot of courses.  At least at my school, 1Ls take more hours than 2 or 3Ls.  Thus if you're taking 12 credits every semester, and you're getting all As, it helps, but not as much.  If you want to avoid being kicked out, you take less credits.  Thus if you do bad, it will lower your GPA less.

Don't quote me on this, but you should be in the top 10 or 20%, which means you'll have a pretty good shot.  Just remember to sign up for a lot of OCI interviews, but practice good OCI etiqutte: research firms first so you know there's a chance you want to work there, since you'll get pretty much any interview you want, and you don't want to take spots when you really don't want to work for the firm.

Current Law Students / Re: How important is case briefing?
« on: June 10, 2007, 07:13:33 AM »
If you can take notes straight into an outline, you'll be ahead of the game.  Only do this if it comes naturally though.  It's hard to make yourself think like that if you don't, and it can hinder your ability to do well on the test.  But then your outlining at the end of the semester will be just putting in class notes and editing it, which will take much less time and leave more time for reviewing the outline and practice exams.

Current Law Students / Re: Transfer Students.
« on: April 18, 2007, 12:13:17 PM »
Provisionally approved schools are normally OK.  They have met all the requirements for ABA accreditation, I think they just need to show that they can keep those stats/credentials up for a couple years.

All the schools you are applying to are going to be very regional.  Your best bet is to retake the LSAT.  Also look at that scholarship from Cooley very carefully.  Many T3 scholarship offers require you to pay back the scholarship money if you transfer, so you can't use their money to skip town to a better school.  I would strongly advise against going there if that's the case with your scholarship.

Current Law Students / Re: Law Review Rumors
« on: April 18, 2007, 12:08:59 PM »
I think most students here turned it in.  I think almost every who started it turned it in.  Those who weren't going to do it didn't even start it.

Current Law Students / Re: Repeating success from 1L Fall in 1L Spring
« on: April 16, 2007, 08:14:33 AM »
You scare with the "people have it made and slack off" comment. I think I did less actual work volume this semester (perhaps b/c I better understand what's important and how to learn). I'm really afraid of being one of these people, even though I finished all my outlines, I've done a practice exam for each class and been studying weekends for a month. I think I might be paranoid, but 2nd semester is much more pressure to perform at the same level as last time. Plus, I think I'll grade on lr if I don't screw up, and that's some serious pressure.
What you described is not someone slacking off.  I'm talking about the people who get good grades first semester and stop studying altogether, get way behind in reading, start drinking and partying more, and generally revert to the type of study habits you expect out of undergrads.

Freaking yourself out is just as sure a path to doing poorly as not studying is.  You sound like you're doing fine, just keep it up and don't worry about what everyone else is doing.

Current Law Students / Re: Repeating success from 1L Fall in 1L Spring
« on: April 15, 2007, 04:09:42 PM »
I pretty sure the # of people who work harder second semester is offset by the number who do well and think they have it made and slack off.

Just do what made you successful, and don't worry about what everyone else is doing, at the very least until it actually causes your ranking/grades to go down.

Current Law Students / Re: you top-5% people
« on: April 15, 2007, 04:06:25 PM »
To be very honest, I think you need to have a few innate skills to get top 5%.  To sniff even the top 15%, you need to beat the curve in every single class.  Assuming a 3.0 curve, you really need to get B+ in every class, then pull down an A or two.  To do this, you absolutely must be a good test taker.  Starting with your first final, you cannot have a bad day.  You also need to know what study tactics work best for you.  It's probably not a good idea to change everything you do if it was successful in the past, but you need to find out what helps you understand the material in that first semester to have the consistently good tests that get a top 5-15% ranking.

Current Law Students / Re: How Time Consuming????
« on: March 26, 2007, 04:34:32 AM »
The "it depends on how efficient you are" thing is really key.  The easiest way to have no free time is to listen to anyone and everyone willing to offer you suggestions on how to study.  You really need to find out for yourself.  There's a chance that to understand the material, especially early in your law school career, you'll have to spend all your time studying.  And in say the first semester of 1L, you might way to play it safe and lean toward studying more than you need to.  But you probably won't if you have effective study skills (work smarter not harder) and work for yourself, not how much or how long someone says you should.

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