Law School Discussion

Nine Years of Discussion
;

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - tacojohn

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 7 8 ... 126
21
Sure, they put out calls for submissions all the time.  Secondary journals, especially on very specific topics, sometimes are really scrounging for papers, and will consider a lot of student comments.

22
General Board / Re: Bar Requirements
« on: August 09, 2007, 02:10:29 PM »
Also on the Wisconsin thing, you must pass the character and fitness portion of the bar.  I think you might also need to take the MPRE.

23
General Board / Re: Summer Associate question...
« on: August 09, 2007, 02:05:44 PM »
If you're an incoming 1L, definitely use it to try and get a summer associate job after this year.  Working in a firm 1L summer is pure gold when you go to OCI the next summer.  I think a firm or two might consider it a bad thing, but on the whole, it will be a huge plus on your resume.

My only caveat is to make sure that in every step of the process, from getting a 1L summer internship, a 2L summer associate position, full time job, you make sure the firm allows you the time to see if it's right for you.  If the firm pressures you into an answer without encouraging you to apply for other jobs or go through OCI, it sounds like they're looking for cheap labor (cheap because they have to train you less), and don't care about your career.

24
General Board / Re: The thank you letter.... is it a good idea?
« on: August 09, 2007, 01:58:21 PM »
If you do them right, it's ok.  It is just another change to mess up, but it's hard to mess up a thank you letter.  Just be sincere.  And mail them, directly to the interviewers.  Do not send thank you letters to people like hiring partners, it comes off as brown-nosing and desperate.

25
General Board / Re: More SA questions
« on: August 09, 2007, 01:56:06 PM »
Invidious discrimination

26
Studying and Exam Taking / Re: 2L Haters:-)
« on: July 26, 2007, 07:56:07 AM »
It's fine to do some prep.  Knock yourself out.  The problem is coming onto a website and mentioning it.  And I'm sure some of these rants are cases of people giving you honest advice.

A lot of times when a 1L or 0L asks about how much their are studying or their prep work, they aren't looking for an honest assessment.  They're looking for someone to say "Wow, you're working really hard, you're way ahead of the game.  You'll probably be at the top of the class!"  And if you're coming on here to rip 2Ls for consistently telling you that you're wasting your time or this won't work (which isn't necessarily true), then you have a bigger issue: you allowed your confidence to get rattled, which won't work in a law school exam.

If you think you're doing good prep work, then trust yourself and do it, and don't care what anyone else thinks.  Because if you do, you'll only get two real reactions: doing prep doesn't necessarily mean you'll do any better when grades come out, and that you're a gunner.

27
General Board / Re: Hear back from law review?
« on: July 15, 2007, 10:33:01 AM »
It's always slow.  Remember that the reviewers are not doing this full-time.  Most of them have full-time summer associate jobs or clerkships, which include a lot of events after work they are expected to attend.  So there just isn't much time in every day to read the submissions, and it's not just a read through or scan to see if it's good.  Cites have to be meticulously checked.

28
LRW classes focus on professional writing.  You do memos and briefs.  LR write-on competitions are focused on academic writing, which is a slightly different animal.

29
General Board / Re: Whats the most annoying thing a 1L can do?
« on: July 12, 2007, 11:11:44 AM »
  • Being an uber-gunner.  Gunners go after fellow students.  The uber-gunner goes after the professor themselves.  You know this is happening when the uber-gunner changes or otherwise refuses to accept the hypo the professor presented.
  • Being a feelings gunner.  This is the person who feels obligated to give their personal opinion on the fairness of every outcome of every case or policy presented in class.
  • Being totally oblivious to those around you while studying.  This includes playing iPods so loud, songs can clearly be heard through your headphones, and eating noisy cruchy food.  It's better to eat a pizza in the library than potato chips.
  • Being the "out-of-class gunner."  This is the person who cannot talk about anything but legal topics, although might occasionally venture into political debate.
  • Talking about how much you study, the progress of your outline, post-mortem on exams, the job search, or grades.  It's not necessarily bad, just make real sure the person you're talking with wants to talk about these topics.
  • Trying to forcefully create a mentor out of a 2L or 3L who either is known to have good grades, has a good job, or is on law review.
  • Obsessing over anything that's ungraded.  Legal writing is important, try hard, but remember what gets you paid at the end of the day: A's in graded class.
  • Sandbagging.  If someone asks you how much you study, either be honest, or say you don't discuss it.  Don't say "Oh I don't study much" if you actually work 12 hours a day.

That's about all I can think of for right now.

30
General Board / Re: Once you are on law review
« on: July 12, 2007, 10:51:38 AM »
I think one of the biggest problems is the terminology is different for 3L positions.  There's basically like four levels:
  • Editor-In-Cheif (at some schools there's another staffer who is right there in prestige with the EIC)
  • Executive Editors (like the person in charge of articles, the person in charge of notes/comments, the person in charge of production, etc.)
  • Normal 3L staff (supervise 2Ls, part of articles team, part of the notes/comments team, etc.)
  • Special Positions (like those for people who barely did not get kicked off, or those who are studying abroad part of the year, or who cannot guarantee the time commitment)
That's pretty much how I think the order goes.  There's a big drop-off after EIC.  Even if you have a position that's almost as good as the EIC within your law review, outside of the review it probably will be treated like any other sort of elected/selected "executive" position.

Of all the things you do on law review, the thing you can do to help job prospects the most is to get published.  It'll never be easier than when you're on the review.  Other than that, what you actually do on the review won't really matter to a job search, it's great experience in and of itself.

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 7 8 ... 126