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It IS competitive...
a friend of mine considered it a safety school... Ivy undergrad, 167 LSAT, slightly lower (but still above 3.3) gpa, works for a Public Defender... denied. 

Law School Admissions / Re: "personal experience"
« on: February 11, 2004, 11:55:23 AM »
Right on... you have every reason to be defensive -- i was offensive! I know I can be a little rough around the edges in challenging people.  Anyway the more I think about it, the more I think what offends me is the sense of personal lives being commodified and evaluated.  there is another thread like this that is interesting me... drewpac is asking his chances of getting into a list of schools.  he mentions his scores, his volunteer experiences, and the fact that he is a childhood cancer survivor.  again, i'm not criticizing his inclusion of that.  however, i definitely hesitated to consider that part of his "package." it didn't seem respectful to him and all the ways in which that experience must have touched his life to reduce it to an asset in law school admissions.  i'm probably sounding like a ridiculous idealist.  i'm just responding to an instinct, and kind of working through what's behind my reaction here.  Feel free to find all the holes in my understanding!

Law School Admissions / Re: "personal experience"
« on: February 11, 2004, 11:44:00 AM »
for what it's worth, kslaw, i wasn't responding to that thread; i hadn't read it.  your situation seems like a really appropriate situation to talk about (not that you need my approval).  i was actually responding to some posts on, which literally say things like
excellent personal essay about impovershed upbringing

or whatever. i know that site is not like the be all end all in terms of comprehensive analysis of admissions, but it just stopped me a little to see someone's personal pain lined up like an lsat score to help them get into stanford, you know?  it made me think about the whole topic. 

Law School Admissions / Re: "personal experience"
« on: February 11, 2004, 11:28:29 AM »
These responses are great.  I can see the utility of discussing personal difficulties especially as they directly relate either to past academic performance or to motivation for attending law school.  I guess the part that disturbs me is not that an applicant would want a school to have a fuller picture of her life, but that it becomes a quantifiable asset, like" gpa, lsat, AWESOME personal essay about trauma!  Which may just be the nature of the beast, the mechanistic approach of admissions in general.  Maybe it's the basic inhumanity of trying to whittle your whole self down to two pages and some undergraduate scores, which necessarily is going to be reductionistic.  I just wince from the idea of comparing difficulties.  Life is difficult.  Almost every person has gone through or will go through, horrible experiences. If it's relevant, go for it.  I struggled with the decision to discuss my own history of violent trauma as it relates with my path to law, which is partly why I'm interested in the subject (I did not, at least not directly).  I'd hate to see it become like a pain contest, with the most points for the most adversity.  It seems to cheapen the experience.

Law School Admissions / "personal experience"
« on: February 11, 2004, 08:01:10 AM »
Is anyone else slightly creeped out by the victimology of the personal statement?  I've been a little shocked by some postings here, like oh I got a low score on my LSATS but I'm a childhood rape survivor!!!  will that help me get in?  My personal statement talks about my missing limb! How many gpa points does that make up for?  I've lived through my own personal traumas, but I don't want to exploit myself by selling out my trauma to be a special person who deserves special consideration.  the question is, will I succeed at your law school.  right? i'm not trying to knock people who do use tragedy as a selling point, necessarily, but I do have questions about it. do you think this phenomenon is supported by admission practices?  do you feel it is morally acceptable?  where did this practice originate -- in admission offices, by affirmative action rhetoric, or did we just cook this one up ourselves?  I don't think I have the answers, but it is somewhat troubling to me and I am genuinely interested in your takes on it. 

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