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Just finish up at Penn first, then apply to many schools.  One year really isn't long especially considering a 22-23 year old law student is a young one.  With those numbers you'll abound in opportunity and youu'll have more time to make the choice that's right for you.  Maybe after a visit you might like U of M, or NYU might offer you a full ride, just wait it out and apply to most of the T14 schools and a few safeties.

Current Law Students / Re: what's up with law school relationships?
« on: August 27, 2005, 09:35:55 AM »
I think the key to keeping him would be to try to go see him once a week.  When you do visit, cook him diner, do his laundry, and fulfill his sexual appetite.  Next week when he's out with all the other girls from his school, he'll remember how good he has it with you.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo?
« on: January 04, 2007, 07:25:17 PM »
I am a 2L at Toledo.

When she said part time day, she probably meant you had been accepted to the part time transitional program.  What this means is that you will take 3 classes, instead of 5, for your first semester, then you will have the option to go full time.

Toledo now admits about 1/3 - 1/2 of the incomming class into the transitional program.  I was actually admitted as transitional and am now full time.  The two classes that you don't take first semester can be made up durring the summer, or as you go along.  I decidied to make them up as I go along since last summer I wanted to work and my job was not near Toledo.  The whole thing is an attempt to increase Toledo's USNEWS ranking (part timers LSAT and GPA not counted).  I personally think that the program is a pain in the ass, having to make up the classes, but I also think Toledo is an excellent school.  I have really liked it here and Toledo was not my first choice, but was my most economical choice.  The Profs here are great, they are very approachable and willing to help.  The students here are easy to get along with and I have enjoyed getting to know most of them.  The one thing that isn't so bad about being a transitional student is that there are many students in the same boat as you, also many upper classman like myself have been through it.  It also give you plenty of time to get adjusted and have some fun first semester, but prepare yourself becasue second semester is probably the busiest semester of law school (6 classes and an appelate brief).

Anyway, I just popped onto LSD for the first time in quite a while (guess I'm board on break or something), but I'll check back for a few days before the semester starts if you or anyone else has any specific Toledo questions.

Again - Toledo was not my first choice, BUT now I couldn't imagine going anywhere else, it has been great. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo Vs. Maine?
« on: May 27, 2006, 10:46:40 AM »
    I went to Toledo because of one thing (price), but I soon forgot that they were not my first choice.  The atmosphere at Toledo is great.  The students are pretty close and we all get along fairly well - there is a lot more to do in Toledo than I anticipated.  Toledo is a convenient city to live in, everything is only a few minutes away and traffic is not too bad.  Cost of living is low and there are numerous appartments to choose from, or otherwise.  The most remarkable thing about the profs is that they are extremely open door.  If you have ANY questions they will spend time to help you - I am a somewhat self-sufficient person and only asked questions on one or two occaisions outside class, but friends have told me about thier experiences. 
    I finished 1L somewhere between the middle and top 1/3 of my class depending on a two more grades - not great but OK.  I am working this summer with a criminal defense attorney in Lapeer MI, a little over two hours north of Toledo.  I am from Oxford, MI which is near Lapeer, and am staying with my parents.  My wife is holding down the fort in Toledo, and I head back there on the weekends, or she comes up here.  I am 26, so I'm sort of one of the older of the normal age students.  I think most students in the day class are between 22-27, then there are a few older students.  Back to my job... Lapeer is a smaller town, the district and circuit court (for the county - Lapeer County) are both located in town, our office is right across the street.  I have already met both district court judges, and one of the circuit court judges.  By met I mean, I was introduced and we had a short chat back in chamber.  The attorney asked is I could handle something smaller at the end of the summer and the judge was fine with that.  We are in the court most days of the week, I have been there a week now and have already learned a good deal. 
    Most 1L's were able to get jobs if they wanted them (some just took classes), but most jobs were doing legal research part-time and other similar things.  I guess I'll know more about what some of my classmates did after the summer is over.  For now I need to go get ready to play some golf today, but I'll try to check back on the board every couple days or at least once a week - if you have specific questions feel free to ask.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo Vs. Maine?
« on: May 15, 2006, 01:48:22 AM »
I just finished 1L at Toledo and would be happy to answer any questions - job doesn't start for a few more days and the weather is keeping me off the golf course, I'll be around and check the board for a few more days

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Save yourself the trouble
« on: April 25, 2006, 04:46:11 PM »
am I the only law student that thinks its just not that bad?  I mean yeh studying sucks, but the material is not all that intensely difficult, its just the mass amount of it.  I just look at it this way, at least Im not getting my ass shot up in Iraq or something, now that is a situation that would suck and Id rather have my nut hairs pulled out one by one as was mentioned earlier.  Law school?  Not that bad

Yeah, now that the first one is over I feel much better.  I was mostly just wanting to complain about not being able to play as much golf and watch as much hockey as I would like.  The material really isn't crazy hard or anything, it just sucks that it all boils down to one exam, where as undergrad was at least a couple exams, or maybe a few papers.  Whatever though, in just 10 short days I'll be done with 1L and I must say it was not as bad as I expected.  I go to University of Toledo in response to the earlier question.

Incoming 1Ls / Save yourself the trouble
« on: April 21, 2006, 02:14:53 PM »
That's right, don't send in any more seat deposits, call the bursar and try to get it refunded.  There is something better to do than to go to law school.  I personaly would rather have an entire football team run a train on my ass than to go to law school.  Classes aren't bad, sometimes boring, sometimes interesting, but EXAMS....
Well F-bomb exams, Is it even possible that I conteplated suicide 4,374 times during my final week (actually that's a low estimate), It is 75 degrees and sunny, yet here I sit locked in my appartment at my desk for the next two straight weeks.  I know what you're thinking, two weeks isn't long.  Well imagine two weeks straight of having your nut sack hairs plucked out one at a time, then after each plucking a midget runs up and kicks you in the shins.  It would be one thing to be studdying for a history, English, math or whatever final for two weeks, that would be tolerable - this is not.  Worst part Civ Pro is the last exam, which basically requires you to memorize ALL of the fed rules of Civ Pro, and thier application, and be abble to spot wich one should be used when in this pile of facts that looks like dream you had after a bad acid trip.  F law school, F exams, F the next two weeks ... save yourself the trouble and quit now - go get an MBA, or PHD in something easy, or maybe just say screw it and work construction.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Univ. of Toledo Review
« on: March 30, 2006, 08:47:18 PM »
his review was pretty much on target - I am happy that I chose Toledo.  It wasn't my first choice, but financially it made the most sense and I haven't regretted it for a second.  The students are great, the profs are top notch and very open door, the campus is nice (law building away from undergrads), nice rec center, somewhat ugly library, but technology is good (wireless of course) and resources are fine, Toledo in general is not a bad city to spend three years in. 

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Univ. of Toledo Review
« on: March 30, 2006, 07:58:03 PM »
WTF - emarejay!

Where have you been lately - did you drop some of your classes or are you on an extended vacation - I shot over to LSD after hearing the 07' rankings were out and here you are.  Have you been playing golf, or sleeping off a few hangovers - hope your still alive and all.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo 1L Taking Questions
« on: February 13, 2006, 06:44:43 AM »
I too was accepted to MSU and had planned on going to MUS or Penn St.  I applied to Toledo very late in the year (maybe late March).  The reason I applied here was because I found out that I would need a co-singer for my private loans at MSU or PSU, as you know they are both around 25K a year.  Toledo is only 12K in state and I was in one of the five MI counties that were considered in state.  I also visited MSU and I thought the new building was quite nice.  I have known a few people (two) who went to MSU, but one went there suring the move, the other just graduated in 04.  Both liked MSU, but one wished he'd gone to Wayne or Toledo to save money.

In both of these schools you will get a good education, MSU is on the rise and should continue to do so.  Both degrees will carry well into MI, I think Toledo's is a little better in the metro-Detroit area, but not by much.

As for Toledo...the good and bad
-the profs are very open door and will help you as much as you want
-the administration is actually very good
-our classrooms are top-notch, wireless, plugs at every seat, comfortable chairs (better than MSU's plastic ones)
-we have lockers just like MSU does
-our law school building is on the edge of campus, so no fighting with undergrad traffic
-the overall atmosphere is welcoming and good
-the library is OLD and looks it, it works fine, we have all we need, its just not as nice as MSU
-there is no food place in the law school, you either pack a lunch or eat the free pizza that is around two or three times a week, or run somewhere quick
-we do have a nice speaker series with speakers every week at noon in the auditorium and free pizza is served for the one hour talks - check the website for some examples, but many of the speekers are not listed there
-I like that UT is smaller than MSU, it is a more personable setting, and there are quite a few planned student activities (the golf outing being the highlight)
-we also have a nice rec center on campus that's not too crowded

just a note: if you do get a scholorship at MSU, you may need to stay top 25% or some such thing to keep it.  This sounds easy but you will be fighting for that spot against many smart indiviuals and its not hard to end up at 35% or the like.  MSU is a great school, but in my eyes its not worth twice the price, and I actually think I am happier here at Toledo than I would've been at MSU.

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