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Pick a california school if you want to practice here. I'd say Thomas Jefferson simply because you'll prolly get at least a scholarship and they only compete with California Western and USD in the san diego market.

Golden Gate's numbers are just bad and they compete with way more schools.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: In at Pacific McGeorge
« on: April 01, 2005, 11:52:19 AM »
Congrats. I was also accepted with "honors at entrance" and 12K. You have to remain in the top third of your class, though; I have a friend at MSU who has a scholarship contingent on maintaining a GPA of 3.0. She has a 3.1 and that does not put her in the top half of her school. So I plan on going next week and grilling them on the number of awards they offered, what their grade distribution is, etc.

Thanks. Congrats to both of you as well.

Gibbs, we have pretty identical numbers so I guess that bodes well for my scholarship chances. Somebody from McGeorge called my home last night but i missed their call. Did they notify you of your scholarship via phone?

Law School Admissions / Re: Need some guidance...
« on: March 31, 2005, 07:18:37 PM »
Don't get me wrong man, I'm by no means an admissions expert, but I can't imagine you getting turned down by Texas with a 4.0 and a 170 on the LSAT, plus with your EC's. With that, I figure the only way you'd get left out is if you apply late when most of the seats are filed, or if you just spend no time on your application.

Don't get me wrong Pancho (by the way, Willie is the man!), I'm not trying to tell you what to do. But the fact is, at least through my eyes, is that witha  4.0 and a 170+ on the LSAT, you have a great shot at even Harvard, Stanford, and Yale.

Your numbers are simply so good it will be tough for anyone to reject you.

Moreover, you should try to go above 170 on the LSAT. If you can do that, (say 175 or so) then all of a sudden you aren't talking about just getting admitted, you're probably getting some scholarship money as well.

Best of luck to you. Apparently you've worked hard, and it should begin to pay off some; just don't let up now.

what he said

Law School Admissions / Loyolas (LA) Evening Division
« on: March 31, 2005, 03:39:04 PM »
Is it too late to apply to Loyola's evening program and expect a reasonable chance of getting admitted with my numbers (3.45, 159)? I would be applying with the intentions of switching over to the day division. I was accepted to Pepperdine and Pacific Mcgeorge less than 3 weeks after my file went complete and I am now regretting not applying to Loyola since it seems like my applications have been well-recieved. Thanks in advance

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / In at Pacific McGeorge
« on: March 31, 2005, 03:30:56 PM »
Just got my acceptance letter today. I was accepted with "academic honors" and will recieve a decision on whether I get $$$ shortly. My file had been complete for less than 3 weeks.

Well that truly, truly srinks and a 155/3.3.....and WAITLISTED at MC? Damn...I got a 3.3/156 and am sending mine in on 10/1....I bet Im screwed, huh?

You are not screwed at all. Just make sure the rest of your application is solid and you have a very strong shot.

To the OP, it looks like you want to stay in the west. Chapman is a good up and coming school and it isnt past their deadline yet. The deadlines for cal western, thomas jeff., and golden gate havent passed yet too. good luck

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: WL @ University of Houston
« on: March 26, 2005, 03:25:53 PM »
What? With a 3.3/161 you think you are overqualified for a T2? Am I misinterpreting your statement? If that kind of cocky attitude came through in your PS at all, neither your WL at Houston or your ding from OK surprise me at all.

This brings me to an important point that I've been thinking about for awhile. (Note: none of what follows is directed at anyone in particular.) Everyone loves to talk about their soft-factors in terms of giving them a boost. Everyone thinks that they are the world's best writer with the world's best WE and ECs and the strongest LORs from the most influential people. What is rarely mentioned is the fact that your soft-factors can be used just as easily to reject you despite your numbers. For instance, being obnoxious about your qualifications could easily get you rejected (especially if they aren't even all that impressive). As another example, say you got a great GPA from a crappy run-of-the-mill LAC and a mid-160s LSAT. By the numbers, it would appear you should get into low T1 schools easily. Perhaps your high GPA belies the fact that you are actually a pretty poor writer. Maybe your PS was complete garbage. Maybe you didn't really want to go to school X and never presented a compelling reason for the adcoms to believe that you actually wanted to go there. Maybe you are a world-class prick and one of your LORs was less than flattering.

The point is, you can't tell any of these things just by looking at someone's LSN profile. So before you start plucking LSN profiles (which are of questionable veracity, anyway) and making broad assessments about affirmative action, and individual's worthiness of admission, remember "this persons might write on a 6th grade level."

Thank you, ron jeremy. Besides being one of the most prolific actors of our time, You make some very valid points. I believe that Admission Officers do their very best to assemble the best incoming class possible. Having a 3.3 gpa and 161 lsat score will surely make you a "CANDIDATE" at many schools, but if you cant bring something special to the table then there are many other people with similar stats that can.

Jeff, do you actually believe that you are overqualified for a tier 2 school? Well, go ahead and think that and blame AA if it makes you feel better. The bottom-line is that some URMs with a lower lsat score (but probably with better gpa, personal statement, and extracurricular stuff) got into Houston because the Admissions Comm. thought they were  better candidates than you.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: WL @ University of Houston
« on: March 25, 2005, 02:27:09 PM »
If you read his explanation, you'll see that his GPA includes 9 F's from a bad first year, which he managed to bring up. Nevertheless, his index score puts him in the auto-admit range for Houston. Still, I have no way of knowing why he got rejected. The point I was making is that his race hurt him. I'm speculating that if he were black, UH would have given him way more slack. More generally, I was arguing that many of the people who are being waitlisted would be admitted if they were URM. Of course, a few of them are URM, but they generally have lower numbers than others waitlisted. One of the guys waitlisted does present a counter-example to my argument:

Again, all this goes to my point that UH was not "full" at the time of my original post. Even as we approach April, my bet is that they still have plenty of slots for the people they want to attract.

Okay, I read his profile. He doesnt have 9 f's, he has 9 hours (class credits) worth of fs. Thats only like 3 classes. To top it off, he earned his degree via distance learning. This guy has an on-line degree! He has no extracurriculars, no impressive work experience, has an on-line degree, and a bad gpa. Race shouldnt even come into play here. Don't get me wrong, URM status obviously helps minorities but the abundance of bitter, "oppressed", cookie cutter 3.50 gpa, 160 lsat having, "oooooh, I studied abroad and made the dean's list" non-URM'S that blame AA for them being waitlisted to a tier 2 school is ridiculous. AA didnt prevent these people from getting accepted.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: WL @ University of Houston
« on: March 25, 2005, 12:44:52 AM »
For instance, I don't know why this guy got rejected at Houston:

But if he were black, would they still reject him? I doubt it. I'm undecided about the merits of AA. It doesn't affect me personally very often. However, I'm not convinced that the policy achieves it's goals as far as law school admissions is concerned.

AA is a bunch of garbage.

Interesting. That guy has a 2.19 GPA and you two want to blame AA for him not being admitted.


Got WListed at pepperdine. Would actually making a visit to the school help?


Yes, i would say to visit the campus if it is a reasonable commute for you. Also, I suggest that you send in an additional letter of rec.

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