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Law School Admissions / Re: Hopes for law school fading
« on: April 19, 2005, 02:27:09 PM »
My major is communications. Its pretty much a bull major.

I just wanted to hurry up and try to get into law school, but I guess I should wait another year and raise my gpa.

I'm gonna study like crazy for the June lsat.  Hopefully I can pull off a good score so I can go to law school next year.  Wish me luck.

David, are you in southern california? I'll be rooting for you. Anyhow, I graduated with degrees in Political Science and Sociology. My Poli Sci GPA was like 3.2 and my Soc. GPA was like 3.83...... so pick up a Sociology major. Its interesting and fairly simple.

I hear that Golden Gate graduates are very overmatched in the Bay Area market and their degree doesnt carry much weight, period. I would go to Gonzaga and then try to transfer. If you are unable to transfer, at least you get to graduate from an underrated yet respectable school.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Legitimate Cooley question
« on: April 19, 2005, 02:11:56 PM »
Riden, All I know about Cooley is what I have read about them and what people have told me so dismiss my advice if you'd like.

But I do think you are selling yourself short by settling for Cooley. You have an awesome 3.92 GPA and it looks like you have quite a bit of nice work experience. If you get your LSAT avereage score into the high 150's, you'll get into some very good schools that will open a lot of doors for you. Why dont you forget Law School for this year, work and save up money, prep more for your LSAT, and get that score up?

Sure, you might graduate with 100k in debt, but what does your avergage Cooley grad make? If I rememeber correctly, about 47 k. Graduates from very good regional schools have an average starting salary of at least 20k more than that so in the long run, you'll actually lose money by going to Cooley.

It just seems that you deserve better than going to a school where more than half of their students dont make it past the 2nd year of law school.

Law School Admissions / Re: Hopes for law school fading
« on: April 19, 2005, 03:06:54 AM »
I haven't graduated yet.  I just looked over my transcript and I retook 4 classes. all of which i got an f in.  I only have 90 units.  So do you think I should not apply at all this upcoming year or do you think i should apply and then reapply next year if i don't get into the schools i want.

It doesnt hurt to apply and reapply if you dont get into the schools you want. Just make sure you are ready for the lsat. Heck, take a prep course. Since your gpa is very low, each point is precious. Furthermore, really focus on getting A's your last couple of quarters/semesters. Schools will look favorably upon an upward trend in your grades.

Law School Admissions / Re: Hopes for law school fading
« on: April 19, 2005, 01:15:13 AM »
HI guys, I just found out that law schools count ure F's and D's when ure school replaces them.  I think that would probably lower my GPA from a 2.8 to about a 2.3 or possibly even lower.  (I messed up really bad first two years college, but improved next two years)

DO you guys think it is impossible for me to get into Loyola Law school or University of San Diego or Pepperdine?  I still haven't taken the lsat but am planning on taking it this june.  My goal is to get a 165 or better.  So say if i got a 168 do you guys think its still hopeless?

Have you graduated yet? If not, stay an extra year, pick up an easy minor/major and get that gpa up. Even with a great score like a 168, a 2.3 gpa really makes the law school admission process a crapshoot. However, if you do get that 168, you'll find no shortage of good schools (tier2-3) willing to take a chance on you.

i am going to loyola this fall, and i was given a scholarship that had a minimum gpa that needed to be maintained. i asked the dean about this minimum and he said of the 15 or so students that are given this scholarship every year he could only think of one person in last couple of years that did not end up renewing the scholarship for thier tenure at loyola.

he also said that about 80% of the students given the scholarship ended up on law review and/or moot court...

of course every school is different, as our the requirements to maintain a scholarship...


Congrats on your scholarship. I guess what I'm saying applies more towards lower tier schools. I actually got a nice 8k a year scholarship from tier 2 pepperdine and its renewable as long as I maintain good academic standing.

On the flip side, I recieved a 12k a year scholarship from Chapman but in order to maintain that scholarship, I have to stay in the top 12 percent of the class.

When I was choosing which schools to apply to, I decided to apply to schools where I felt I would get a merit scholarship. $$$$$ was a big concern of mine and I decided that there was no way that I'd go to a school which didnt offer me  some sort of scholarship.

However, I now believe it was a mistake to use this strategy. Some of these scholarships are generous on the surface, but are difficult to maintain.

For example, Whittier offered me a 20k scholarship, but I would need to stay in the top 20 percent or I'd lose it all. Based on their attrition rate, I'm more likely to not make it pass the first year than I am to keep that scholarship. Although I am grateful for the offers I've recieved from my schools, I'd caution people to be careful about choosing a school based primarily on scholarship $$$.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Summer work?
« on: April 17, 2005, 04:21:55 PM »
As a current 1L, my advice to you would be this:  make a bunch of money this summer to cut down on your loans.  That's what I did, and I was very pleased.  No trouble getting a summer law job for the summer after 1L without any legal experience to speak of. 

Good luck!

So w/o any legal experience, what kind of job did you obtain for the summer? I'm curious because I'll be entering law school w/o any legal experience.

As for the OP, I'll be working 40 hours a week as a Research Assistant for a School District. I'll be making $20 and it is only 9 a week position so after taxes, I'll have about 6k. I plan on using 3k of that to cover my personal and leisure expenses during my fall semester of law school.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: SOUTHWESTERN
« on: April 17, 2005, 01:06:02 PM »
Hey precise,

You seem pretty certain that you/me are in. How can you be so certain?

Just curious as to where u got this information...or are u merely making an assumption based on stats.


I'm not certain of anything.I know that numbers alone dont gurantee us acceptance, but based on the statistics it will be very out of the ordinary if we arent accepted. I also called the admissions office a couple of times to ask about my prospects of admission and both times, they've had this "dont worry about it, your numbers are very solid" attitude.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: SOUTHWESTERN
« on: April 15, 2005, 02:31:52 PM »
Hey guys,

A few questions...

For those of you on the southwestern waitlist, what were your numbers? Please share if possible; I just wanna know where I stand.

I checked the online app status today and it says that I am still being reviewed. My numbers are 3.5/159. I also have a Master of Arts degree..

Is there reason why I have not heard of anything yet? Do you guys think I will be on the WL or do you think I am on "hold"?


My application is still pending and my numbers really mirror yours (3.45,159). Assuming there are no flaws in your app, I say you are in. Check out

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