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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Celebrities you've met
« on: April 06, 2005, 06:47:06 PM »
Jessica Alba - She's even more attractive in person.

Drew Barrymore - She's very sweet and bubbly. 

John Lithgow - He would read his scripts while walking his dog on the UCLA campus.  His wife is a professor there.  We ran into him one day, and was pretty friendly.  Just talked about the USC/UCLA game.  I guess he expects to run into people if he walks around campus.

Luke Wilson - I'm not a big fan.  But, that's because he dated my ex-girlfriend before we went out.  Oh yeah...and she was a Freshman in college!!  But, supposedly he rubs his chin a lot, just like he does in all his movies and drives a black porsche.  Man, I hate that Luke Wilson.

Danny DeVito - Ran into him at an icecream shop.  He is so tiny!  He literally came up to my waistline.  He was with his wife, Rea Pearlman who towered over him.  And she's no more than 5 feet tall!

John Kerry - Got to meet him when he flew into LA last year.  Worked on his staff and met him at a private gate at LAX.  I felt so cool hanging out with the Secret Service all day.  All I needed was some sweet shades and an earpiece. 8)

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Denials / Re: Boalt Sending out two different reject letters???
« on: April 01, 2005, 02:21:16 PM »
Why the two letters?

Because the people who got the transfer letter probably didn't have high enough GPA's and LSATs but Boalt still thought they would be good students, though accepting them would have meant lowering their stats for the USNWR rankings.


That makes sense.  I got the transfer one as well.  At least I feel somewhat comforted by the "There's always next year" approach.  :)

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Negotiating with schools for $
« on: March 28, 2005, 07:49:50 PM »
I suggest writing a letter and following up with a phone call to the Dean of Admission or Financial Aid.  I was originally offered NOTHING from a top 20 school.  It's the only school I have been accepted to thus far, so I had no other scholarships to use as leverage.  So, I called up the financial aid department and spoke with the Associate Director of Financial Aid.  After a brief 10 minutes conversation explaining my financial situation and my desire to attend, she told me she would meet with the Director of Admission and re-review my application.  The very next day I received a phone call and was awarded 30K in scholarship money!  That covers almost an entire year's tuition!!  In our original conversation she told me that my numbers were below their cutoff for scholarship money, so I was extrememly shocked to find out I got anything.  It just goes to show that it never hurts to try, even if you think you don't have a chance.  Don't be affraid.  They want to help you go to their school.  If they didn't, they wouldn't have let you in to begin with.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Washington & Lee Admit Day (3/19)
« on: March 25, 2005, 04:28:29 PM »
Notice my qualification of "Some pliaces in LA & San Fran."

The reason why I qualified it is because those places where you can live "cheaply" are a 2.5 hour one-way commute from the law firms, downtown, that pay $130k.

I personally feel that a 13 hour workday plus a 5 hour commute is vomit-worthy.

Ya, but cost of living aside. Comon, I cant be making 80K when my buddies who went to Hastings, SC, LA and Loyola are making 130 to start. That's just silly. And honestly, its probably expensive anywhere you live in NY, but in LA, you have ranges of places to live from the westside where a 2 bedroom is 1500 to 2500 on average to places in the OC or the Valley that would be less than 1500 a month. So i doubt that living in boonsville West Virginia making 5 figures would be the same as living in LA making almost double, even if roadkill and housing is cheaper there.

I'm not exactly sure where you're getting that info.  You can find reasonably priced housing within less than a one hour commute if you work in LA.  I worked in downtown LA for a year and was able to find a pretty nice place without breaking the bank.  The extra price you pay to live in California is definitely worth the lifestyle/weather.  If 80K in West Virginia is comparable to 125K in Southern California, take the 125K and live 5minutes from the beach. 8)

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Washington & Lee Admit Day (3/19)
« on: March 24, 2005, 06:26:21 PM »
thast kind of my worry too- except philly area instead of cal (i want to stay in the northeast after school)

If you want to stay in the NE, I'd definitely go to either BC or GW.  Those are two great schools and both degrees offer a lot of opportunities in the NE. 

that is exactly why i was 85% set on BC last week- but then i got  my financial aid back and BC would cost me 60k more over the 3 years---so im not sure anymore what the best move would be

Well, if you look at it in the long term, you'll probably end up paying off that extra 60K rather quickly since you'd probably be making 20-25K more per year if you went to BC and worked in the NE.  Plus, you'd have a better chance at landing a high paying job with BC's strong alumni base.  Although money is a very big motivating factor for me, I realize that all(most) law students have large amounts of loans to pay off.  In comparison to the amount of money you will earn over the course of your career, 60K will seem like a drop in the bucket...and also the best 60K investment you ever made. 

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Washington & Lee Admit Day (3/19)
« on: March 24, 2005, 04:58:09 PM »
Also, can anyone help me from a CA perspective. Cause i plan on coming back here to work. They kept saying how this guy Klinedinst can hook you up easy with a job. But the guy has a starting salary of 80K! Here in LA, thats less than out of work homeless beggars make. I made almost that much working just out of college!!!

Will i be able to compete against SC and UCLA kids for the standard 125K jobs out here.

Well, I am also from CA and am a little concerned with the options available if I wanted to come back. When I met with director of Admissions and brought up my concerns, the only thing she really told me was that there was an attorney in San Diego who only hired W&L grads. Not too reassuring. Also, I have many close family friends who are partners in major firms in SoCal, and they don't know much about W&L. When I asked them to compare W&L to schools like BC and BU, I have heard numerous times that you would have a much better chance finding something in CA than with a degree from W&L. Although I love W&L, I am wondering if it would be a better career move to go somewhere a little more well known nationally. I like having options. Any thoughts ???

Ya, that person in SD is Klinedinst. He has offices in SD, LA, OC, and Sac. BUT 80K to start is not nearly par with what most attorneys in big law make around here. I know kids who make almost double that coming out, and at least 120K is standard. 80K...comon! Unless he has you on a partner track in 4 years, I don't think its funny at all.

Right now, if I get in at USC, I will go for sure over schools even like Georgetown and Cornell. The Hastings option right now would be a tossup if i had to choose between that and W&L. The whole crowd and people at Hastings is too much like my alma mater of UCLA, the big public school red tape and cutthroat nature is so anti 'what i liked at W&L'.

Yeah, 80K kinda stinks in comparison to other starting salaries at most top 25 law schools.   I know graduates of Hastings who started at 130K and even Loyola grads that started well over 100K.  To be honest, I don't want to rely on only one or even several connections when beginning my career.  I want to have a broader range of opportunities.  I guess W&L's biggest positive aspect(small school) is also it's biggest negative (small alumni base).  I just need to figure out if the benefits of a small law school education is worth the career drawbacks after I graduate.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Washington & Lee Admit Day (3/19)
« on: March 24, 2005, 04:12:16 PM »
thast kind of my worry too- except philly area instead of cal (i want to stay in the northeast after school)

If you want to stay in the NE, I'd definitely go to either BC or GW.  Those are two great schools and both degrees offer a lot of opportunities in the NE. 

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Washington & Lee Admit Day (3/19)
« on: March 24, 2005, 03:28:50 PM »
Also, can anyone help me from a CA perspective. Cause i plan on coming back here to work. They kept saying how this guy Klinedinst can hook you up easy with a job. But the guy has a starting salary of 80K! Here in LA, thats less than out of work homeless beggars make. I made almost that much working just out of college!!!

Will i be able to compete against SC and UCLA kids for the standard 125K jobs out here.

Well, I am also from CA and am a little concerned with the options available if I wanted to come back.  When I met with director of Admissions and brought up my concerns, the only thing she really told me was that there was an attorney in San Diego who only hired W&L grads.  Not too reassuring.  Also, I have many close family friends who are partners in major firms in SoCal, and they don't know much about W&L.  When I asked them to compare W&L to schools like BC and BU, I have heard numerous times that you would have a much better chance finding something in CA than with a degree from W&L. Although I love W&L, I am wondering if it would be a better career move to go somewhere a little more well known nationally. I like having options. Any thoughts  ???

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I was actually in the exact same situation as you.  I was offered no scholarship money or grants aside from federal loans.  Tuition and living expenses would be in excess of 50k per year, and it would extremely difficult to afford to attend without some sort of assistance.  I wrote a letter to the dean of admissions explaining my situation, and that I was extremely commited to attending and contributing to the school.  I would mention a particular aspect of the school that makes it your first choice (specialty field, certain clinical programs, etc.).  Don't sound like you are begging for money.  If you present a convincing reason for being unable to afford tuition, and the school has enough discretionary funds to make an offer, hopefully they will try and accomodate you to some degree.  

DON'T waste your time with the admissions committee.  Address a physical letter to the director of admissions and financial aid.  Wait for a response, and then follow up with a phone call to the same person.  The phone call is what makes the issue personal.  Then, you are not just some applicant sending yet another email to complain.  If you make the effort to talk one on one with someone (director of admissions or whoever is in charge of making scholarship decisions) your chances will be much greater.  I ended up getting a substantial scholarship to the school I plan on attending when I was originally offered nothing.  And it was all because I persisted when I was originally told that there were no funds available.  It was only after I had a phone conversation with someone that I was offered something.  

Good Luck!  If it worked for me, you definitely have a chance.


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I don't remember getting anything in the mail about an admitted student's day. :(  Oh, well.  I plan on visiting sometime in April anyways.  Did anyone get a chance to check out the housing options?  Any reasonably priced apartments that aren't totally run down?

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