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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Harvard or UNC
« on: August 16, 2005, 10:05:38 PM »
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Otherwise, you will be making life considerably more difficult for yourself (in fact, it might be easier for you to get a government job without going to law school than if you had gone to UNC ... by moving to DC and finding internships until you build the connections for full-time employment).

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But the odds suggest that HLS and YLS grads are much, much more likely to get these jobs (If I had to quantify it, I'd say the advantage is between 500% and 1000% for mid-range jobs and significantly higher for top jobs).

This is just the type of foolish prestige whoring that fireplace was talking about.  There really is no fact to your assumptions.  With the right connections, there are plenty of doors open in D.C. for a UNC graduate.  How in the hell could you work in a government legal position if you just moved to D.C. and got some internships without going to law school. 

I'm done with this thread too.  It never met it's original purpose and now it's just getting too subjective and off track.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Harvard or UNC
« on: August 16, 2005, 03:34:25 PM »
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But don't go to UNC.  You will not be able to find a job in DC

Do you even know anything other than what you read in a magazine?  You should go on over to Martindale and search the number of lawyers in D.C. that attended UNC.  I think that you'll find the list to be quite long.  According to career services, somewhere near 10% of UNC's graduating classes go to D.C.  If it weren't for self-selection of many residents, I'm sure that the number could be higher.  Sure, it may be easier to get to D.C. with a T14 degree, but it's not infinitely harder with a UNC degree and you can do it for exponentially less.  LRAP may help a little but it wouldn't help as much as a full scholarship to regionally strong school that places comparably well in the region. 

That 10% does not get GOOD DC jobs, trust me.  Maybe the top 1-2% has a shot at DC biglaw,  but almost no UNC grads make it into good jobs in the federal govn.  Look it up: almost every single legal position of importance in the federal government is filled by H or Y grads (and the remainder are split between Chicago, Columbia, Stanford, and a handful of other top schools).  For fun, let's look up the office of solicitor general on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Solicitor_General

In reverse order, the last ten Solictors General went to:

HLS
Boalt
Yale
Yale
Yale
Duke
Columbia
(can't tell)
HLS
Yale

Need we go continue?

Before we continue we should define a "legal position of importance." What exactly makes a position "important?"  Since  only a handful of people ever attain positions as high as a solicitor or attorney general, I think your perception is a bit skewed by prestige.   

I can find several UNC grads working in government positions in D.C.  Where is the objective standard for a good job and why are these jobs not considered "good?"

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Harvard or UNC
« on: August 15, 2005, 10:48:55 PM »
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But don't go to UNC.  You will not be able to find a job in DC

Do you even know anything other than what you read in a magazine?  You should go on over to Martindale and search the number of lawyers in D.C. that attended UNC.  I think that you'll find the list to be quite long.  According to career services, somewhere near 10% of UNC's graduating classes go to D.C.  If it weren't for self-selection of many residents, I'm sure that the number could be higher.  Sure, it may be easier to get to D.C. with a T14 degree, but it's not infinitely harder with a UNC degree and you can do it for exponentially less.  LRAP may help a little but it wouldn't help as much as a full scholarship to regionally strong school that places comparably well in the region. 

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: unc wait list update??
« on: August 12, 2005, 08:59:40 AM »
How do you know your college? I can see my schedule but don't see a label.

Well I'm going off that master class schedule we got at the preorientation.  My schedule corresponds to the classes labeled in the Coates college.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: unc wait list update??
« on: August 12, 2005, 07:54:44 AM »
Congratulations!  Make sure you join the listserv, that can help.  Email Jonathon Davis at jtdavis at email dot unc dot edu for instructions.

You getting excited?  I am, but I wish we would get our schedules finalized.  I'm in Coates college at the moment.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: unc wait list update??
« on: August 11, 2005, 03:08:07 PM »
Congratulations.  I'll see you in a few weeks.

Here are a few links with housing info.

www.chapelhillrent.com

http://housing.unc.edu/get_room/off-campus/posting_board/index.html

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They send it to LSAC, which is what I think you mean when you say LSDAS.  The address for LSAC will be on the form they have to fill out.

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It was fine until he got here: "I'm sure he'll be a top 3 candidate at your school, be editor of your law review, and graduate magna cum laude in a few years."

That's sounds a bit presumptuous and the adcoms may not take the LOR as seriously because of it.  But what can you do?  Either get someone else to write one, ask him to change it (assuming he actually gave you permission to read this letter), or keep it if you really think it doesn't sound that bad.  Personally, I think everything else is pretty good but at the end it is a little bit over the top as you say.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: College Football
« on: July 27, 2005, 12:30:53 PM »
USC benefited greatly from watered down competition last year.  Not just in the Pac 10 but in all of college football. The traditional powers (Miami, FSU) had down years by their standards.  As much as I love my Tar Heels, there is no way we should ever beat Miami.  LSU, the previous year's co champion, was down a little as well. As mentioned before the Pac 10 was abysmal.      Auburn should have gotten their shot before Oklahoma and maybe could have given the Trojans a good game.  But when Utah and Pittsburgh are playing in a BCS game and Texas is winning one something is wrong.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: College Football
« on: July 27, 2005, 10:50:30 AM »
Tennessee, bitches, is what it's about in 2005.  Don't get it twisted. 


We're loaded, ready and PISSED!

The SEC is almost too brutal for a serious national title contender to actually emerge from the pack.  In every other major conference, a good team can take about half of the season off mentally and still come out undefeated.  The SEC has about 1 or 2 easy games in each division and that's it. Throw in the title game where the two teams are likely to be Top 10 nationally and you've got a scenario where everyone probably gets beat once. 

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