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Current Law Students / Re: Law School Debt
« on: August 25, 2007, 05:32:57 AM »
Why is b-school always floated around as the other option for law students?  Personally, I don't give a rats ass about earning an MBA. 

Current Law Students / Re: Does briefing cases as a 1L = waste of time?
« on: August 22, 2007, 09:01:33 PM »
No problem!

Day 3, and I still don't hate life! Maybe tomorrow?

Don't feel so special ... everyone I know (including myself) feels pretty good right now.  As in, we think it's interesting and enjoyable and not quite as bad (so far) as we've heard.

But it would take a dummy not to realize that everything is going to pile up and we're going to have many cases and concepts from five classes to know and deal with come the end of the semester.

what if you work like 10-12 hours straight for a few days in a row to do assignments ahead of time? I am working on assignments due next monday/tuesday now.

Then you'll be ahead ... but you'll still have to go back and outline/study at the end of the semester :)

ha, well what I was going to attempt to do is clear out 1 weekday to just go out and have fun, and then clear out one weekEND day for reviewing the previous weeks concepts and going over my E&E books. This way I wouldn't have to go on a crazy study frenzy as much like 6 weeks out from finals as I would be "studying" weekly along with reading cases and briefing. Im waiting to see if some 2L's or above can chime in and let me know if this working ahead thing is an ok plan. Im not rushing through the work or anything, just doing like 12 hour work days. YES it sucks a lot but it may be worth it to have 2 days a week to completely relax and not have mounds of work to do.

You are totally overanalyzing this thing.  You will burn out on 12 hour work days pretty quickly so I don't think that's the way to go really.  Working ahead is ok, but you will still have to go back and review the material before class.  I know you're excited to be in law school and all but you aren't going to find the golden key in the first 3 days.  I sense a lot of insecurity in your posts, and that is one thing you certainly don't want to have if you are going to be a successful lawyer and law student.  

You've likely been a student for at least 15 years.  You know how you learn and you know what works best for you.  Law school is still school.  Some things are different but it's still a learning process just like any other school you've ever attended.  Whatever worked for you before needs to be incorporated into your study plan now.  The things that didn't work or you think might not work need to be discarded immediately because you are wasting valuable time by trying them.  Know yourself and your strengths, that is the only way to succeed in a new and challenging environment.  

Current Law Students / Re: Does briefing cases as a 1L = waste of time?
« on: August 21, 2007, 04:30:02 PM »

Law school really doesn't seem as difficult or intense as you guys make it out to be...

Take it from the grizzled 2 day school isn't as intense as it's made out to be.

Probably not going solo, but I am working for a solo this summer.  It has been a great experience so far.  None of the bull politicking and ass kissing that is done at law firms.  It's just you, the clients and actual legal work.  I've learned a lot from this experience about what it means to be a lawyer. 

Current Law Students / Re: Is 2L really easier?
« on: June 12, 2007, 10:34:51 AM »
If you're actually planning on doing all of the assignments and outlining like you are in 1L all over again, 2L is not any easier.  In fact, in terms of sheer reading load it might be more than 1L.  First semester of 2L I took tax, corporations, evidence and criminal procedure.  That semester was by far harder than 1L.  If you are looking to work part time to go along with 5 classes, it's going to be very hard and stressful. 

Don't know anything about the lawnerds site and never bothered with LEEWS but my experience with the E&E's has been mostly good, especially contracts and civ pro.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend doing anything over the summer (other than possibly reading The Brethren, or some other not really academic but still relevant book. IMO, the PLS recommendations are insane. Am I the only one who thought Falcon came across as borderline wacko in PLS 2?   ??? (have to confess I didn't finish it though, so it might have gotten better towards the end)

There is certainly no love lost between Falcon and the law school establishment.  That said, he does make some excellent points in his criticism.   I find it an absolute farce that, essentially, I will not be qualified to practice law upon graduation from law school.  What other professional school can boast that? 


Thank you to everyone for your responses.  I will take it all under advisement. 

You won't be qualified to practice law upon graduation from law school.  Law school will teach you how to approach a legal problem and to some extent it will teach you how to research and write about one.  However, it will not show you how to interview and advise clients, how to file complaints, and many other things that go into the daily practice of law.  Law school teaches you how to be an appellate court judge.  However, lawyers spend a very small minority of their time doing what law students do, namely reading cases in an effort to understand "the law." 

A friend recommended that I read it and buy into its message before I start in the fall, but I would like to get a broader perspective before deciding whether or not to waste my time with it.

Any advice/commentary is appreciated!

No advice until you take off your signature where you were accepted/rejected/whocares/etc.  This isn't the kiddie board.

The problem with unwritten rules is that nobody bothered to write them down.   >:(

Indeed!  Having taken care of that problem, I'd recommend reading Planet Law School II before that web site.  That resource helped me, and others I've spoken to, tremendously the first year.  It provides comprehensive exam strategies and further lists other sources that are more narrowly tailored to specific areas of the law school experience.  It is worth the read and 30 bucks. 

I finished Law School Confidential a while back, and I am currently reading PLS II.  Did you do the exercises and order all the additional materials that Falcon recommends?  I'm afraid that I am not going to have time to work through it all before school starts...  :-\

So what if you don't order materials and finish a bunch of pre law exercises.  It probably won't make one bit of difference and you'll look back a year from now and realize how crazy the thought of intense pre-law preparatory work really is. 

I am currently a 0L so I have little insight to share on law school satisfaction. 

You could have stopped there.

Transferring / Re: New UNC transfer policy
« on: April 27, 2007, 01:56:13 PM »
Policies like this are why UNC is underfunded and underperforming.

The policy is odd to say the least, but I don't see a connection with underfunding and underperformance. 

2 years I'm not glad I came to law school.  Worst economic move of my life.

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