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Ok. Here is the Baylor line-- most of the poeple above have no idea what Baylor requires. Baylor generally requires to keep the scholarship a 2.75 GPA-- that is the approximate MEDIAN grade for 1L. MEDIAN.
But, they changed it for our class (Fall 2004) to 2.6. Easy to keep a below median grade, in my opinion.
My impression is that for every class Baylor decides how much to LOWER the 2.75 requirement. So that in the past years it has NEVER been above the MEDIAN. Call the very friendly Dean of Students/Student Liason and ask her, she's very helpful.
Some people in my class did lose their ride, but most kept it.
"Maybe I shouldn't be doing this for fear of dissuading anyone from coming to Baylor, but I am currently in my second quarter here, and let me tell you. As a 1L, there is absolutely no way that you can do law school 8-6 everyday, and be done with it. My first quarter I was at school at 6:30am every morning, and didn't get home till 11 or 12 at night...and that was just to get by...the people who do really well put in more time than that. This quarter I have more classes than last quarter, but I am lazier. I still get to school at about 6:30am every morning, but I'm usually done by 8pm. So just be warned. I believe that Baylor produces better lawyers than most schools, but you will go through hell to become that better lawyer."
I am a 5Q here at Baylor and let me say that this is a valid criticism. But, and this is a big BUT, a little over the top. I made top quarter after 1L so I think my work ethic was acceptable. I kept my full-ride and can enjoy another very affordable year-and-a-half here. 2Q is the hardest quarter here (except maybe Practice Court I) so what you are going through is not "normal" even by Baylor standards. And I think you may be being a bit dramatic. I worked longer than 8-6 -- but I never got up before 730 (class at 915) and was done with work by 1030. That was 1Q and 2Q-- 3Q things changed drastically. Your 3Q until PCI is very light, or as light as you want it to be. Part of the challenge of Baylor is working hard but not giving into the group mentality around here that to win you have to be the hardest worker.
I have a little bit of a reputation for not prepping for classes adequately and I've been dressed down at least 3 times for it in class. I partied a lot 1L and went to bars once--more often twice a week and had a good time.
Make no mistake, you will work harder at Baylor than other Law schools, but that level is really up to the individual. You don't get shot for not preparing for class--and I would say it doesn't even effect grades very much.
If anyone has specific questions email me.
« on: February 09, 2005, 09:35:45 AM »
If you could buy stock in a law school, I'd load up on Regent. I visited the law school facilities this weekend and was amazed. The building was like a dream and everything was brand new and beautiful. From what I hear, applications are dramatically up and the reputation for the law school (which was only established in 1986) is rising quickly. I live in Richmond and know of many Regent grads in large firms in the Richmond-Tidewater area. I didn't apply, nor would I attend, but if your friend is a serious Christian who would like that perspective in her legal education, I would encourage her to apply.
Sometimes its just *painfully* obvious that an admin person from a school trolls these boards and posts crap like this. This, Mr/Ms. Helmut is one of those times.
Regent is not a TERRIBLE school. That being said look at its numbers.
154/148 75/25 LSAT.
That should tell you the entire story. Their median is about the median on the test, not impressive.
Their starting salary is horrific. ilrg.com with (granted 1-2 year old numbers) puts the starting salary at 40k for public practice and 36k for private. That is terrible, period.
I'll give you a little more.
The comments in the OP regarding "Marine Corps of Law Schools" is probably well deserved. Baylor requires things that as far as I know, no other school does. We have to stand when cold called, no notes, no briefs, no computer to look at. Some profs require the cold called to go in front of class, explain the facts and advocate a certain side or position in a case.
As far as competitive, sure its subjective but this is not HYS. Kids here, if they want a $100K+/year have to be top 15-22% at least. At the top schools, you can get those jobs at a greatly differing range of GPA levels. Another reason Baylor is so hard is Practice Court, which is no joke, if you want to be a trial lawyer in Texas there is no better place because you have the equivalent of a couple of full trials in school here, and its not easy.
The attrition here is also quite high due to the reasons above, our entering class of 67, Fall 2004. We now have 59 and we will be getting grades back in 3 weeks or so from our first set of finals (quarter system).
Ok a couple of things....
I'm a 2Q at Baylor and let me tell you the guy above talking about "breaking" that guy above is total BS. Almost everyone here is on a large scholarship and no one "breaks" anyone.
That being said its very competitive, you have to stand up when cold-called the professors are kind of hard asses and the school is very small so you know everyone.
If you want to know anything specific email me at firstname.lastname@example.org I'll be more than happy to tell ya anything ya want. Baylor's a great program but its /very/ work-intensive.
« on: June 14, 2004, 01:07:09 PM »
to answer your question: 6 points and 8 points.