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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Opinions on Madison?
« on: March 02, 2005, 04:43:41 PM »
I've attended undergrad at Madison for four years and lived here for 5.  It is a great city with a lot of culture, which is surprising given it's size and relatively little ethnic diversity.  There are a billion places to eat and drink (I think it was rated as a mid-size city with the most restaurants per capita in the country).  It IS full of college grads.  A ton of people I know have no intention of leaving even though they've graduated. It's one of those towns that is full of those kinds of people.  Old hippie activists walking about downtown passing out leaflets, a couple of communist coffee shops.  Very cold, which is why I want to leave.  Oh...it's also VERY liberal downtown.  The suburbs not so much, but the campus definitely is.  I often see people handing out leaflets advocating the boycott of Taco Bell because of the tomatoes they buy from poorly paid farmers in Mexico.  But not everyone's crazy.  It has a big city feel for being only about 200,000 people, 300,000 if you count the 5-10 suburbs all around it.

I know this lacked focus, but I hope it helps.  All-in-all I love the city, but 5 years is enough for me.

Oh yeah, great local music.  Ranked 5th best music scene in the country by Rolling Stone.

So, would it be safe to say that a 24/25-year-old few-years-out-of-undergrad law student could move there not knowing many people in the area and not struggle too much to meet people of similar backgrounds?

Also, does anyone know what % of students at Madison LS come from outside the Midwest, and what % go outside the Midwest to work after graduation?  I read that about 48% stay in Wisconsin; do most of the other half go to Chicago or Minneapolis?

I would have to agree that Madison is extremely accepting of all types of people, even though it isn't really all that diverse.  I would think that you would have absolutely no problem meeting new people.  I want to say that a good percentage of the LS students come from within Wisconsin (less than 50%, but more than 30% maybe?  You'll have to visit their web page for these stats.)  Like any school, they try to increase their diversity stats, so the law school, at least from what I can tell, isn't as white-bread as the undergrad was for me. 

I do know some attorneys that went to the UW and ended up in Chicago and Minneapolis.  But if you are thinking of attending school here, one of the serious benefits is not having to take the WI bar.  If that isn't a big deal for you, then it's probably not worth staying for that reason alone, but it's still a helluva nice perk.  I think the school is pretty well known nationally, so should you choose to go elsewhere, I don't think it should be an issue.  But, I'm warning you, once you get to Madison, you may not want to leave.  I could definitely see myself moving back here years down the road after school is done and I've got some years of work experience under my belt to settle down and raise a family.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Law School.....How afraid should I be????
« on: March 02, 2005, 03:30:49 PM »
I'm not in law school yet, but I didn't do so hot on the LSAT and had the same concerns you do.  Basically, I was told that it has little bearing on how good of an attorney you'll become.  It does, however, influence your school options.  In retrospect, I probably should have practiced more and taken a course, but I also know people that took courses that did as well if not worse than I did.  It's all relative, really.  It definitely doesn't hurt to take a bunch of timed practice tests, at least.

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For the sake of my own relative class rank, I really hope you end up at my school.   I look forward to "tooling it up" with overachievement, and to your frattin' it up at the bars on weeknights.  My only regret will be when you're no longer around to bolster my class rank come L2. 



wow.  someone hit a nerve...

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Maybe all the law students reading this board are so stressed out cause they spend their days cruising this discussion board?

I don't know so much about the whole "tool" label, but I do agree with this statement.  From just being on this board for a day or two I can tell that this board is definitely a pissing contest for some people, and that's fine.  But, a lot of others on this board get all bent out of shape because it doesn't seem like they're stacking up comparatively.  

I'm not entirely sure, but I'm willing to bet that LS is going to be a lot like undergrad; balancing what you need to do with what you want to do.  I plan on studying more than I did in undergrad, but at the same time I'm going to live a life outside of the law school realm.  some people in undergrad studied a hell of a lot more than I did and probably obtained better grades because of it, but I guarantee that I had a lot more fun than they did.  some people just need to learn to relax, because there is always going to be something in life that will stress them out, whether it be grades in law school, of finding the perfect job, or moving up the corp. ladder.  on the other hand, there are people that need to learn when to turn on and off the party vibe.  some people never learn these lessons.  others already have.

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It sure does...Thanks!

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blah....even the majority of those people who are outside of the top 25% at a non T14 school get jobs some place, just look at the employment stats for god's sake.

I've only recently joined this board, but the paranoia surrounding where one gets in and where they are in the class rankings once they start school is pretty absurd, unless of course your planning on landing a dream job in a major city complete with ulcers and little outside contact. 

this board reminds me of a sewing circle sometimes, where the "scariest" gossip spreads the fastest as a result of the already neurotic posters trying to make themselves feel better by making everyone just as frantic as they are.  I mean, there are a lot of useful things on this board, but a lot of it is pure gossip and fact-twisting.

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yeah, I mean, not to say that I didn't get a B or two in my required poli sci classes, but I just sort of get the feeling that anyone who is a strong writer (esp. people who are considering law school) should be able to get at least a B in basically any poli sci class they take with little effort.  that's just my .02

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Berkeley...we have #1 undergrad poli sci dept. All our professors are amazing and most of the books you read will be written by them as well. We have really good student organizations as well. GO BEARS!! If you go here make sure to take Zook, Stoker, Fish, Citrin, Gregor, and gosh so many more.

Yup. Only do PoliSci if you're really truly interested in it, though, as some of the classes can be a little difficult. I can easily see how someone could do only so-so (say, B average) in the major if one wasn't really driven. I'd also suggest maybe padding the PoliSci degree with a slightly easier one, for the purposes of law school applications: say, sociology, or social welfare.

EASIER than a poli sci degree?  I don't know if that's really possible.  I went to UW-Madison which is not number one in the poli sci area, but no slouch by any means, and my poli sci major was pretty damn easy to get.  I declared the major as an after-thought second semester my third year and still managed to get out in 4.  I mean, I LOVED many of my poli sci classes, but I wouldn't consider any of them particularly difficult.

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I was accepted to Loyno last week.  no $$$ though.  I need to take a trip to visit the campus (I've never been to NOLA), but it seems like a pretty decent school with pretty strong connections to local firms.  plus it's warm, which is really nice (I'm currently living in Madison, Wisconsin and it's quite cold). I'm thinking of going to the new student gathering in March.  who else is planning on attending?

also, does anyone know what it's like attending a Jesuit school?  I'm not Catholic, and although I like the school thus far, I would hate having religion be an issue there.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Opinions on Madison?
« on: February 28, 2005, 05:48:57 PM »
I've attended undergrad at Madison for four years and lived here for 5.  It is a great city with a lot of culture, which is surprising given it's size and relatively little ethnic diversity.  There are a billion places to eat and drink (I think it was rated as a mid-size city with the most restaurants per capita in the country).  It IS full of college grads.  A ton of people I know have no intention of leaving even though they've graduated. It's one of those towns that is full of those kinds of people.  Old hippie activists walking about downtown passing out leaflets, a couple of communist coffee shops.  Very cold, which is why I want to leave.  Oh...it's also VERY liberal downtown.  The suburbs not so much, but the campus definitely is.  I often see people handing out leaflets advocating the boycott of Taco Bell because of the tomatoes they buy from poorly paid farmers in Mexico.  But not everyone's crazy.  It has a big city feel for being only about 200,000 people, 300,000 if you count the 5-10 suburbs all around it.

I know this lacked focus, but I hope it helps.  All-in-all I love the city, but 5 years is enough for me.

Oh yeah, great local music.  Ranked 5th best music scene in the country by Rolling Stone.

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