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Job Search / Re: Hovering around the median. Is it really that bad?
« on: August 01, 2007, 08:23:20 AM »
First of all, thanks for the responses. It always sucks when a post floats to the bottom unanswered.  In any event, I figured that OCI may not pan out; however, I also have bids in for a Regional Interview program where I may have better luck.

My grades are so/so, but I have a ton of WE related to the field of law I want to practice and think firms might be interested if they can get past my GPA (which isn't horrible).

 If I don't get an interview with a firm during OCI is it still OK to contact them directly? 

I would say so.  Contacting firms directly through mail is always ok, unless they say otherwise.  This comes from my career services office. 

Job Search / Re: Hovering around the median. Is it really that bad?
« on: August 01, 2007, 07:07:49 AM »
You will find a job, so don't worry.  An often quoted refrain puts it best, "Ninety percent of lawyers didn't graduate in the top 10% of their class." 

Current Law Students / Re: 12 Hours A DAY?
« on: July 31, 2007, 12:29:18 PM »
Ten bucks says he probably doesn't even go to law school...

Or could he be a 0L offering sage advise?

Transferring / Re: $250 Registration Cancellation Fee
« on: July 31, 2007, 11:26:07 AM »
That is crappy.  What school is this?  Well I shouldn't ask.  Anyway, sounds like a bunch of *&^% to me.  I am not sure what they could do.  Can they withhold anything you need to transfer at this point?

Current Law Students / Re: 2L Haters:-)
« on: July 31, 2007, 10:47:40 AM »
For the benefit of a lively debate.....So, as an incoming 1L I have read and posted thoughts about prepping the summer before and getting study aides.  Being wise in the world of law school, here are my conclusions.  Obviously one can not get casebooks or supplemental casenotes to go along with the keyed casebook until one finds out what his or her specific professor wants.  This is a given.  I also agree that reading from commercial outlines may be counter productive before 1L starts. 

That being said, I have read certain chapters from my E&E's and also have used my laws in a flash cards.  Every time I mention this, some 2L goes on a rant as if I am trying to overthrow them in the race for the top of the class (as if 1L's and 2L's were in contest for some prize or job).  Now I am not doing a 1 year PLSII prep, but I am doing a 6 week or so brief over view.  Reading the basics and beginning chapters in the E&E's and also doing LEEWS.  Personally, I have found this very helpful and informative; not to mention feeling more self confident.  I have a good general idea of the basic concepts and terms covered in the books so far.  When law school starts, I feel my understanding will only enhance.  I also have been doing practive via LEEWS and find my writing becoming more organized every time. I feel that there is nothing wrong with relaxing, yet also prepping and preparing as 1L approaches.

2L's fireback when ready.....

I don't think there is anything wrong with what you are doing.  Each person needs to do what they feel is necessary, but about your idea of building confidence.  Law professors are about to spend the next 32 weeks (both semesters) trying to destroy your confidence so they can rebuild you into something harder.  Wow that sounds like an add for the Army or Marines.  Anyway, I got an interesting email from my advocacy professor a few weeks ago where he was dicussing how the advocacy course works.  He essentially summed it up by stating, "We will spend the next 16 weeks trying to build your confidence in public speaking and appearing before a court.  It is the least we can do for spending the past 2 years destroying your confidence."  This to me sums up 1L.  Do they teach that in prep courses?

Current Law Students / Re: 12 Hours A DAY?
« on: July 31, 2007, 08:44:02 AM »
Well your decision to choose a tier 3 (or is it tier 4?) law school over a T 25 are likely going to bite you later down the road when you try want gainful employment.

Just wondering...what year are you?

Current Law Students / Re: Question Members
« on: July 30, 2007, 01:34:29 PM »

Pocket to use, hardbound full to sit on my shelf and impress people with how difficult the study of law is.

Exactly!  ;D

Current Law Students / Re: 12 Hours A DAY?
« on: July 30, 2007, 01:33:25 PM »
I learned sometime ago that bashing other individuals choice of law schools, outside of harmless good natured ribbing, is stupid and potentially career harming.  But since 1L is able to hide behind an anonymous screen name, he can say whatever he likes without fear of possible consequences.

Current Law Students / Re: 12 Hours A DAY?
« on: July 30, 2007, 01:05:05 PM »
Well I can imagine with his general attitude and disdain for people who do not go to a T25 that he will remain a federal employee for the rest of his legal career. (Considering the vast majority of lawyers are not from T25 schools)  I wonder if he works for Homeland Security, because the guy who used to run it was a PSU law grad.  I bet he wouldn't talk like that to his face.

Current Law Students / Re: Confused!!! Can you guys please clarify...
« on: July 30, 2007, 11:40:15 AM »
Typical Day 1L

7:00am -- wake up
7:30am -- walk to class
8:00-11:30 -- classes
11:30 - 12:30 -- lunch
12:30 - 5:00 -- Read for classes, sometimes had writing and research
5:30 -- Dinner -- Usually I am done for the day, except Fridays where I will work until Mondays work is finished (In the fall at least, I need college football and the NFL).

I start outlining in November, and I start practice exams then as well.  So this schedule will change somewhat throughout the semester.

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