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Law School Admissions / Re: Article About Boalt E-Mail Mistake
« on: February 23, 2006, 03:24:05 PM »
This presumes that they know some people are rejected, and we don't know that that's the case, even if Edward Tom gave numbers over the phone and someone has calculated that there are more apps than that number. The point is: no-one knows what goes on in admissions offices. There may be several 'perhaps' files to varying degrees. Whatever, the point is that it's futile getting stressed about it. This is the way it's done, and in applying we all consented to that. Sometimes we can't all know in time and have to make choices without knowing all our options - like you and your financial aid for example, or me and some applications to programs (non-law) that I made in England. Life is like that unfortunately, and it will happen with jobs and houses we wangt to buy etc. Again, I hate to sound harsh because I am sympathetic, having gone through the same stress, but I have to say I think you could all handle it better by accepting a system that works for Boalt and that you cannot change. The more you complain about it the more you get riled up. I was lucky to be in uhndergrad when I applied. I just concentrated on what I was doing then and there and one day anm email was in my inbox without my even expecting it. Email or letter, you will hear - and soon.

Law School Admissions / Re: Article About Boalt E-Mail Mistake
« on: February 23, 2006, 03:13:43 PM »
I understand your anxiety - how could I not? - l just think they're doing their best and what will be will be. You have to believe they're doing it to your advantage. I do sincerely hope everyone hears soon, but then you all will. March is nearly upon us!  :)

Law School Admissions / Re: Article About Boalt E-Mail Mistake
« on: February 23, 2006, 03:02:29 PM »
I can't help thinking that you apply to a school and thus entrust them with your application, and how long it takes them or how they reach a decision is not really very much to do with you after that point until it becomes excessive. I know this sounds harsh but it's true. Because when people apply to Boalt they are told that they will hear around March - at least I was.  Hearing earlier is a bonus (which, from what I understand - though I could be wrong - mostly happens to people with very very high numbers).
Let it be. I also found it a long wait, but waiting is just a part of this game. They have a right to keep hold of apps for as long as they want or need to and to assess them in the ways they deem appropriate. The fact that other law schools do it differently doesn't make Boalt's way illegitimate. At the end of the day, isn't it better not to be told than to be rejected outright if it means you're still in the game? I think so.

By the way, I have similar numbers to Ruskie and was accepted last year (in February). I personally believe a longer review period means they really do look at the whole application rather than simply scanning for numbers and throwing apps in bins accordingly. This is what we all want law schools to do, so it seems unfair to be criticising them for doing so just because it takes a little longer.

Law School Admissions / Re: Oxford & Cambridge
« on: February 23, 2006, 10:44:11 AM »
I am British and completed by undergrad (English and French) at Oxford. What most people don't know is that it's a public university and costs no more to attend than any other university in the UK. You'll be shocked at how little this is: currently 3000/ year, and just one year ago it was 1,200!

I LOVED it there - I think it's the most intellectually-stimulating, gorgeous-looking, friendly, interesting, opportunity-filled place I could have gone to. But I think that anyone wanting to go there to enhance law school prospects alone shouldn't. I happen to think that undergrad is a once-in-a-lifetime thing - it can't really be lived with the same intensity twice. I'd definitely recommend an MPhil/MSt instead.

I miss Oxford :'(

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Umm, Boalt Email?
« on: February 21, 2006, 08:23:06 AM »
You say that rankings are widely useful, comparing top 14 and top 50, yet you say that the schools to which you've been admitted are considerably more selective than those/one from which you have yet to hear - and they're all in the top 14. And selectivity is what the rankings are about for the most part.

I absolutely disagree that if a 'better' school's adcom could see the merits of an application, lower schools' adcom should be able to see the same. Schools have very different personalities and look for different people *in general* and different people at different parts of the cycle. We more or less know Michigan looks for specific sorts of individuals to 'complete' its class, so if ithas lots of economists it might look for a Spanish major or whatever. Boalt cares massively about public service whereas Columbia on the whole probably cares less and places emphasis on other things. We all want to be seen as individuals in this cycle, yet critique schools for seeing us as such by suggesting that certain numbers should make us auto-admits. Hypocritical.

As for conceit not being applicable to the statement that a school's yield protecting by not admitting an individual (because that individual isn't you) I disagree again. Presuming to know better than an admissions committee with less information than they have is overestimation of one's own worth or ability if ever I saw it. 

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Umm, Boalt Email?
« on: February 21, 2006, 07:58:13 AM »
Jason, I think that is incredibly well articulated and absolutely true. Thank you for saying it. Kudos to you.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Umm, Boalt Email?
« on: February 20, 2006, 09:57:16 AM »
Jason - I'm really glad you went with your gut feeling and got a satisfactory response. Good for you! :o)

For some other posters here, I understand you're upset or annoyed or whatever, but it still annoys me when people call very good schools TTTs. It's an ugly term, and ubsurd application of it, like on this thread, is not funny but stinks of immaturity.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Immature in LOVE
« on: February 20, 2006, 09:51:22 AM »
Hi Iwant, is this the same guy you posted about a while back, with the past problems and who'd dropped out of college? I don't think it's judgemental of me to say that he's not good enough for you! Not becauase of the above (though I DO think you deserve a better catch) but because you deserve a MAN. Someone who will treat you well, not be scared to take the lead sometimes, at the very least *thank* you for paying for the cinema.
He sounds a bit confused or difficult or whatever, and that plus his age plus your coolness and intelligence screams to me: 'let this one go -you can do better'.
You shouldn't have to do all the calling etc. I understand that he's been hurt in the past but I think yoiu have the right to expect more regardless. Hope I don't sound mean by saying that.
Tell us how it goes! :O)

ps: in law school there'll be lots of choice. I've always thought that school/training sessions are a great way to meet people. :)

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Umm, Boalt Email?
« on: February 18, 2006, 01:13:51 PM »
I want to tell you all that I am sorry for your shock and disappointment - I can imagine how annoyed and upset you are.

However, I have to say that I think it's a really bad idea to send this email. Of course, it's your decision, butif I were you I would consider a few things first. Rather than what do you hope to achieve, you should ask yourself what you can reasonably expect to achieve. Do you think you'll hear any sooner? Do you think Boalt will change they way they do things? I have to say that I think the answer to those questions is a clear resounding 'no'.

What you will gain is feeling purged of your anger and thus temporarily better. But when this email changes nothing, I think you will feel even more frustrated and regret what you sent. Permit me to say that what you want is a reaction. I have been in a very similar position with a school I wanted to attend and sent a letter just like yours about a similar issue and nothing came of it and I think the situation is analogous. I also suggested changes and said why I felt they were important. But it was naive of me to think it would make a difference, and in the end I felt silly for having ranted.

What I would do is talk to your friends and family and use the weekend to get over it as best you can, whilst recognising that you have some great choices if you are not admitted to Boalt (which, of course, you may well be).

I only write this because you asked for an opinion.

I wish you and everyone else on this thread the very best of luck.

 >:(  My boyfriend was actually in the same town as me yesterday, only we don't live together and his a**hole of a workplace kept him there til 12:30. That's right.

But I agree with everyone, it's a Hallmark holiday. I always used to think I hated V-day because I wasn't with someone, but now I am with an important someone it seems even more stupid and annoying than ever. Who _needs_ it? It's pressure to express your feelings in a generic way with the herd. Frankly, to me that's not very special.

Hope everyone's feeling more upbeat today now that it's behind us! For this year, anyway!

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