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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: April 11, 2007, 10:12:50 PM »
Sent my deposit in as well.

Question for the 1Ls - is it common for students to use a computer for an exam?  Is it mandatory, or does the student have an option?  I would think a computerized exam is disadvantageous for those who don't type quickly.

Sorry for being MIA here recently... been busy with a lot of stuff... whoisjongalt has done a good job with everything, though (I'm putting a star next to your name for today).....

Anyway, 99% of students use computers for exams.  It's not mandatory, you can always handwrite exams if you want.  Is is disadvantageous for students who don't type quickly?  Yes, probably.  Since most people can still type faster than they can write, I wouldn't recommend handwriting exams.  Also, in a 3 or 4 hour essay exam, your hand might not make it all the way and you'll probably get pretty tired after an hour and a half or so.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 29, 2007, 05:43:16 PM »
Tell me about Hughes Hall. The convenience sounds wonderful. Do most students enjoy their stay there (as much as you can for dorms?) Are they shared apartment style with your own room? Or is there separate access to your room and other common areas (like bathroom, kitchen, etc.?) What furniture does it come with? Is there heating? Air conditioning? Cable TV ready? Wireless internet? Anything else I'm not thinking to ask?   

Neither I nor johngalt live in Hughes, but Rainwater does... he'd be the best person to ask about this...

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 29, 2007, 05:40:23 PM »
Do students at the law school date each other?   ::)

yes

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 28, 2007, 05:24:37 PM »
I was wondering if I brought a car to Cornell and lived in Hughes Hall if there is a designated place I am supposed to park my car? I know a few of you live in apartments but have you heard if there are any complaints about living in Hughes?

Also, has anyone heard about financial aid or scholarships yet?

Thanks!

There are parking lots behind the law school to park your car, and people find random spots in the area as well.  If you come up for ASW, the tour guide should show you the parking lots.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 22, 2007, 09:35:44 PM »
How strong is the daily urge to kill self in Ithica?

It's spelled Ithaca.  HTH.

Relevance.

How unbearable is the urge to kill yourself in ITHACA

How unbearable is the urge to troll on LSD?

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 22, 2007, 09:16:26 PM »
How strong is the daily urge to kill self in Ithica?

It's spelled Ithaca.  HTH.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 22, 2007, 08:45:23 PM »
What do you guys do for fun?  (if ever there is a free second) :D Hang out by the gorges? Hike? Drink?   :D

For fun, I often like to outline.  When outlining gives me joy-overload, I like to pick up a hornbook and read it while in bed.  The best is when you read multiple hornbooks on the same topic, and then analyze how each author addresses it differently.  It doesn't get any better than that.

You may think Leshy is joking, but he's not.  He's known for never studying in the law school because he doesn't want others to know how gunner-ish he really is...

It's true.  You can often find me studying during class as well.  I also get an audio recording of all the lectures and listen to them while I sleep.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 22, 2007, 07:12:19 PM »
What do you guys do for fun?  (if ever there is a free second) :D Hang out by the gorges? Hike? Drink?   :D

For fun, I often like to outline.  When outlining gives me joy-overload, I like to pick up a hornbook and read it while in bed.  The best is when you read multiple hornbooks on the same topic, and then analyze how each author addresses it differently.  It doesn't get any better than that.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 22, 2007, 03:31:01 PM »
Is there any grade inflation at Cornell?  I was just talking with a Penn grad and she said grade inflation was alive and well at her school.  I think they curve to a B+ or something.

That sounds like heaven, after attending an undergrad that curved to a C.

There's no such thing as "grade inflation" at law school.  Different school will curve at different letter grades, but in the end, its really all meaningless, since it's your position in the class relative to your classmates that is important.

Cornell curves at a B+.  The median GPA is somewhere around a 3.33-3.35, with a B+ counting as a 3.33.  Also, professors are required to grade all courses, including problem courses and seminars, so that the mean grade in the course does not exceed 3.35.  However, employers and recruiters will have an idea of GPA/ranking correlation, and its really your standing in your class that is important.

Will employers see this context when you're standing in comparison to students from places like NYU/Columbia?

Employers only see your GPA, as Cornell does not rank its students.  I'm not sure why you bring up NYU or Columbia... again, there's no grade inflation in law school.  There is no such thing as a law school that only gives out high grades to all of its students - all law schools (as far as I know) have some sort of mandatory curve (especially for 1L classes).  Ever if such a law school existed, employers would know about it and again, it would come down to how you stand in the class.

Right, so... are the students pretty cutthroat about being in the top 10%?

I'm not really sure I understand what you're getting at here... the students at the law school here generally are not competitive and it really is a great environment, as I discussed in my other post.

Yea, I think I read those other posts...  I was just panicking when you said "its really your standing in your class that is important."  Because if it's really that important, then I would think that the students would be competitive with each other to get the higher standings.  I always hear those horror stories about competitive law students and am always trying to track down where that stereotype came from.  I'm glad it's not Cornell though!

People aren't like that because everybody knows that they're all going to have a great job when they graduate... there's no need to be cutthroat when you know that you'll be taken care of.  Also, when I said that its your standing that matters, I meant it more as a way of saying that your actual GPA is meaningless without context.  A 3.3 doesn't really sound so good (at least it wasn't in my undergrad), but at Cornell Law, that's right about the median and you'd really have nothing to worry about... unless you wanted to clerk for the Supreme Court or something  :)

And on a final note, at every school "it is really your standing in your class that is important."  The number means nothing without a basis for comparison, or without more info (ie. how do other students do?).  The better the school is, though, the less your place in the class matters, because firms will go deeper into the class to hire their associates.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Cornell 1L
« on: March 22, 2007, 03:24:22 PM »
i'm leaning heavily toward cornell at this point, and i'm wondering if there are any employment opportunities for public interest law in ithaca or near ithaca itself...if i went to cornell, my boyfriend would be coming with me, and when i graduated, he would still be in grad school at cornell.  i haven't visited cornell yet (yay ASW on the 30th!), so i don't know how realistic it is to assume i'll be able to find a job near cornell after graduation.  any thoughts?

thanks so much for answering cornell questions!

I'm not 100% sure about employment opportunities after graduation, but I know that there public interest/gov't stuff that you can do here over the summers.  I don't have a list of those jobs or anything, but I remember coming across a bunch of summer opportunities in Ithaca when I was exploring my summer options.  Dean Comstock is really the person you'd want to speak to about this, she does all the public interest stuff and she loves anyone that shows interest in PI, and does anything she can to help them.

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