« on: March 10, 2005, 09:12:35 PM »
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I'd like to add something to the "mercenary" idea.
I was speaking with a friend - he's an attorney. We were discussing this topic and he brought something to my attention. He said after the time he spent in law school and his experience as an associate, you really start to think differently than you ever had in your life - and you analyze every argument in a "lawyerlike" manner. Thus, you begin to see the pros and cons of both sides of the argument, and it becomes less a moral issue and more of a legal argument battle of wits. So, it's not as if you sold your soul - unless you're defending genocide. There are always two (or more) sides to an issue. We just fail to comprehend the other side(s) in our everyday lives.
Even if you would it's obvious that it would deter others from even saying negative things politely. Just in the same way many people wouldn't say negative things about their boss (even in a polite fashion) if their boss was right there listening. That type of deterrence would significantly decrease the utility of the message board.
QuoteSomeone else pointed out that we want to be professionals, so we should act in a professional manner.But this isn't a professional setting. If you go to an alcoholics anonymous meeting (which is quasi-public) and complain about your job and say how you think your boss is an idiot I think a company would be absolutely wrong to fire you for being, "unprofessional" even though in other settings making such statements would certainly fall under "unprofessional" behavior and a justifiably firing offense.
So a black child adopted and raised by white parents should consider himself white? No way, your culture has nothing to do with your race, race is a biological distinction. Its stupid that schools give AA preference to certain races but thats the way it is and checking hispanic on a form when your race is white is an outright lie. Checking other would be fine as other can mean anything. Who you were raised by, economic factors, what country you came from, etc. are things for the PS/addendum not the biographical information box.
Though I disagree with the collection itself being worthy of condemnation, I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post and it's well said.
1) The issue (at least in part) is collection. Even if they never use it for "bad" purposes that's not the end of the story. Simply collecting the information has a negative effect by stifiling open communication which aside from general philosophical ramifications would have the more specific effect of decreasing the utility of the message boards for useful information. If everyone is afraid to speak negatively about a school because they all know adcomms are tracking them down who's going to do it? If no one does it why bother going to the message boards when no one is going to give you an honest answer? If someone calls an admissions office and gets horrible service who's going to complain about it on the boards (and thereby warn their fellow applicants) when they know that same admissions office is going to read it and then try and trace them?
The revised standards will have five minimum categories for data on race: American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Black or African American, Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander, and White. There will be two categories for data on ethnicity: "Hispanic or Latino" and "Not Hispanic or Latino."