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I believe that the BC law name does carry well in the market, but I'm just curious about specific numbers with regard to 2L OCI. The 2006-2007 Profile shows 60% of the Class of 2004 employed at firms broken down as:
- Small (1-20)....15%
- Medium (21-100)....2%
- Large (101+)....43%

I'm assuming that only the last category would be able to consistently fund summer associates. Would it be reasonable to assume this represents top 1/3 OCI plus IP and those with connections?

The info is generally correct. The market is strong right now and getting stronger, so the stats could change to favor law firms, but at BC, there is a large number of students interested in Public Interest work, so the stats may stay the same as last year. I wouldn't expect too difficult a time getting a job so long as you are in the top half. At least, it hasn't been hard for the current 3Ls. 

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Hey guys,
  If you are having trouble, the law school holds an event every summer for future BCLS students to get housing. Realtors and house owners go to the event to get occupants. It worked really well last summer, although I obtained housing on my own. Great places to live are Newton, Brighton, and Allston, although a number of the Harvard and Tufts graduates chose to remain living in Cambridge and Somerville. I personally think those areas are too far from school. If you want to get cheap housing, try to get a rented room or apartment in a house in Newton; these are usually substantially cheaper than apartments.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC that much > than BU?
« on: March 25, 2006, 12:43:27 PM »

I think the BC BU choice is a personal preference. If you want to be on a journal, BC has less students and one more journal than BU, making it easier to grade on. Basically, everyone at BC who does teh writing competition gets on a journal.They also save some spots on the law review so that if you are not in the top 10% you can still try and write on, something which I don't believe BU has. The same principle holds for clinics. If you want to do a clinic. At BC, if you want to do a clinic, you are pretty much guaranteed a spot at some point in your 3 years.

The decision should come down to whehter you want to live and study in the heart of undergrad BU campus, or if you want to live out in Brighton/allston/Newton. That 15k is great if it is guaranteed. If it is contingent on GPA, I would be careful using it as a guide, as you never know where you will end up in the class.

Its a tough choice. I think I would go with BC or GW over the scholarship, only becuase, in the long run, you are paying for the reputation of a school and that is seriously important  in this industry. BU just doesnt have a solid reputation at this point. Although, if they don't drop in the rankings, they may start making a name for themselves, the name recognition is still not solidified yet as a top law school.

Edit: It should be noted that GW has twice the number of students as BC with the same number of clinical and journal opportunities. As such, it is extremely cocmpetitive to get on a journal or clinic at GW.

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As a BC 1L, I have to say that I have never heard of a professor not allowing laptops in class. That may have been Greenfield's desire, but I have never heard of anyone else doing such. As for Greenfield, the guy is pretty amazing. He has argued infront of the Surpeme Court on Defense countless times, and, as with other Con Law professors at BC, he gives his student's a great account of what it is like arguing before SCOTUS and the challenges that one woudl have to face in actually trying to argue a hypothetical, both through briefs and oral arguments, to a Supreme Court. He is a great professor, as with all the BC profs.

I also toured the other two big bosotn schools and found BC's facilties much more aestheticly pleasing. BU shares a library with the undergrads, as the actual Law library is too small to accomodate the law school class. I hated that idea.

Harvard library is amazing, and I would have gone there had I not been waitlisted. But everyone at BC is basically a Harvard reject, so it works out. Its funny, but the general rule is that if you dont get into harvard, you ended up at BC. But only a few people get the opportunity to get to study at Harvard, and as BC is the second best school in the city, its not a bad default position. But if you get into Harvard, you should go.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Priority WL for BC! CRAP!
« on: March 11, 2006, 11:08:30 AM »
Getting on their priority waitlist is not a bad thing; most schools usually end up hitting the priority waitlist around May. BC is harder to get into than BU; it is a slightly more prestiguous school with a better reputaiton and more demand from law students. But priority waitlist is a great place to be at any school. Also, get your GPA up; BC is like a west coast school regarding numbers. While most east coast schools look at the LSAT primarily, BC and a number of west coast schools are really strict about a high gpa.

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Wait List / Re: Boston College Waitlist, ANY HOPE?
« on: March 11, 2006, 11:06:54 AM »
Getting on their priority waitlist is not a bad thing; most schools usually end up hitting the priority waitlist around May. BC is harder to get into than BU; it is a slightly more prestiguous school with a better reputaiton and more demand from law students. But priority waitlist is a great place to be at any school. Also, get your GPA up; BC is like a west coast school regarding numbers. While most east coast schools look at the LSAT primarily, BC and a number of west coast schools are really strict about a high gpa.


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Law School Rankings / Re: Top 20 IP Schools
« on: January 30, 2006, 09:23:56 PM »
Specialty rankings were introduced as a means for selling more volumes of USNWR, and as such, they are extremely speculative in nature. As you go through the process of job searching in law school, your realise very quickly that choosing GW over GULC or BU over harvard is meaningless.

The Point:
Specialty rankings go to the professors at the school. Schools that have to top IP specialists will have high rankings. However, the point of law school is not so much to learn the law (the firms actually teach you this when you graduate, you'll see) but to obtain employment. Thus, your goal should be to get employed. As such, you should go to teh school that places extremely well either nationally, or in your market. If you dont have the opportunity to go to a school that places well nationally, and you dont have a market, shoot for a school that places well in an IP dominated market.

Top IP markets: Regional schools that place best in market in order
NY   - Ford, (dont know rest)
DC   - DC, WM, American
BOS   - BC, BU, NEU, Suffolk
N. CA - UCLA, Berk, Hastings

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Fordham, BU, BC?
« on: January 30, 2006, 07:44:00 PM »
Hey guys,

The same firms recruit from BU and BC. We actually share the same job fairs sometimes, but we have the same firms come to both schools and harvard to do OCI. I think a lot go to Northeastern as well, but don't quote me on that one.

Every now and then BU will place slightly more students in NYC. This is usually cused by either 1) self selection or 2) could not get a job in Boston. Also, working at a small firm in NYC is not the same as working at a large firm in Boston, and placement statistics dont state which firms these students actually work for, if they even work for firms. However, I am sure a lot of yankee fans would say they would rather work at the bottom of NYC market than at the top of the Boston market. :)

Fordham is hands down where you want to be if you are sure you want to work in NYC. If you arent so sure, I would go to BC/GW. If you get a good scholarship from BU, you might want to take that option. Or, a lot of people choose BU b/ they like studying deep in the city. I would get too distracted and I enjoy having a car, so I probably wouldnt have been too happy there. You should see what your preferences are and decide that way. An old poster on here used to say it just comes down to a gut decision. 90% of the time, thats the right one.


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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Fordham, BU, BC?
« on: January 28, 2006, 06:35:08 PM »

"BU has a law school library"

You walked both floors? Seriously, if you dont think that library is a joke, you are kidding yourself. They have been talking about building a new law school for years, but as they just renovated the place, I doubt that its coming any time soon. My friends at BU law study at home or at cafes due to the library's size and atmosphere. THey like doing that, so if youre okay with it, then you wont mind BU campus. If you like having a nice library, BC and FOrdham may be better bets.

"BC is more clerkship oriented and BU is more focused on Biglaw than BC"

Considering I know of no BU students with BigLaw 1L jobs (and I know a lot of BU students) and at least 5 from BC, including myself, I think that statement is pretty funny.

I realize this is a board for pre-law students, but the few law students that post on this site (when we get a chance) have a lot of experience with these firms and these markets. We are trying to help you get a perspective of what its like. BU does have a good reputation in Boston, but I would be careful making the statemnt that it is BigLaw focused, considering it is very difficult to get a biglaw job from BU. (t-30% or a hard science background is usually required from BU for Boston Biglaw; They will go deeper, albeit not by much, into the class at BC. ONce you leave Boston, the two are equally regarded.)

As for sharing a campus with 100 freshman v. sharing a campus with 35,000 undergraduates or however many are at BU, I stand by my analysis.

hth.

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