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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Georgetown
« on: April 26, 2005, 05:57:19 PM »
Georgetown Gilbert & Sullivan Society: "America's Only Theater Group With Its Own Law School!"

That's the kind of thing I'm looking for in a law school.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Decided on Georgetown!
« on: April 25, 2005, 05:14:33 PM »
At the DC Metro web page - - you can enter in your starting and ending destination and get a subway/bus route and estimated time. GULC is walking distance from two subway stations: Judiciary Square and Union Station.

I just typed in Cleveland Park to Judiciary Square, and it says 11 minutes. Add in a couple of minutes to walk from the station to the campus, too.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Decided on Georgetown!
« on: April 25, 2005, 03:48:16 PM »
Apartments are much cheaper in the suburbs. Crystal City / Pentagon City (Virginia) is really close to DC, right by the metro, in a trendy-ish area, and 2-bedroom apartments run $1600-$2000. Also, the apartments are much bigger than you'd get in the city.

I visited shortly after I got my acceptance letter, so I can't say whether it would help in a waitlist situation. I called in advance and arranged to sit in on a class (probably not possible at this point in the semester), and the admissions office was really nice to me. They prepared a little goodie bag for me and a folder with information about the school and in particular about the professor of the class I sat in on. Also, someone who had reviewed my application came out and introduced herself and was extremely nice.

They also offered to have someone give me a tour of the campus (I don't think they have regularly-scheduled ones), but I declined because I have friends there who showed me around. I bet they would give you an interview with a decision-maker if you asked.

I would say definitely visit, it will probably help and certainly cannot hurt. Do call in advance to see if you can set up an interview/tour and to let them know you're coming. You can also get from them a visitor's pass which will allow you access to the library and other buildings.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Georgetown over Yale - Am I crazy?
« on: April 17, 2005, 10:15:51 AM »
Prestige alone is no reason to choose Yale over a school you really want to go to for a lot of good reasons. How happy you are during your three years of law school really matters. Not only is happiness a good thing of its own accord, it will also affect how well you do in your classes.

If you're smart enough - not to mention well-rounded enough - to get into Yale, you'll do fine at whatever school you go to. Georgetown should serve you well. If you want to be in the city, if you're into the areas of study that Georgetown is best at, if you're willing to put in the effort to be a top student at Georgetown instead of coasting near the middle of the class, you'll be able to do whatever you want after you graduate.

This is not biased in any way by the fact that I'm going to Georgetown. :)  Actually, my case is kind of similar to yours. My scores are good enough that I probably could have gotten into several schools ranked higher than Georgetown. But my husband has a great job in DC and I don't want to live apart from him, so I didn't even apply anywhere outside of DC. As long as I push myself to stay ahead of the middle of the class, I figure my career prospects should be just as good as if I'd gone to Penn or Chicago or even Stanford.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Decided on Georgetown!
« on: April 15, 2005, 07:21:22 PM »
Where is the link for the message board? I couldn't find it in the admitted students site

That's weird - I just went back, and the message boards were gone. They were there this morning, and all of last week.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Decided on Georgetown!
« on: April 15, 2005, 03:55:48 PM »
Living in the city is really expensive. We're planning on living in the Crystal City area of Arlington, VA - because it's so much cheaper, because the metro is so convenient, and because I like living in the suburbs better than living in the city anyway.

I'm leaning towards Curriculum B, but I haven't completely decided yet. I'm going to law school to further my intellectual interests, not to get a job in a big firm or anything like that. (In fact, I emphatically don't want to work in biglaw.) Since my interests are as much in political theory as in law itself, I think I'd enjoy Curriculum B a lot.

When I visited, the "B" students seemed much more enthusiastic than the "A" students. "B" students had comments along the lines of, "this is the best thing ever," while "A" students had comments along the lines of, "law school is pretty much what I expected."

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Decided on Georgetown!
« on: April 15, 2005, 09:38:31 AM »
I'm going to Georgetown, too. I'll be living off campus since I'm married and have two cats.

Have you noticed that GULC has message boards on their admitted students site, but nobody has posted anything on them since last year's admissions period?

Law School Admissions / Re: landing judicial clerkships
« on: April 06, 2005, 02:56:54 AM »
Can someone tell me what cklerkships are all about?  Like, what do you do, how much do they pay, where do they help you go? 

My husband is currently working as a clerk for an appellate judge. The work he does seems really interesting. Basically, clerks are a judge's assistants/lawyers.

When the judge is assigned to hear cases, the clerks read the briefs and research the arguments the lawyers for each party have made. They write memos for the judge summarizing the arguments and outlining the clerk's own view of the merits of each argument and the case as a whole. The judge uses this info to get a basic view of the case, and to identify points in question that he/she can ask about during oral argument. (Remember, this is an appellate clerkship, where the judge can take an active role in questioning the lawyers; a trial-court clerkship would likely be different.)

After the judge hears the case and has decided how to vote, the clerks help with writing and editing drafts of the opinion. Clerks also keep up with the decisions of other judges on the court and monitor them for things that might interest the judge they work for.

A clerkship usually lasts 1 year; a few judges like to hire clerks for 2 years. Clerkships are considered prestigious, especially at the Circuit Court level, and they can help you get better private-sector jobs. Sometimes firms offer higher signing bonuses for people who have done a clerkship, and some firms recruit among clerks at a court the way they do at law schools.

A clerk is a government employee, and gets paid on a government wage scale. It's enough to live at a decent middle-class level, but not nearly enough to start making a dent in those student loans. But it's short-term, and it helps your long-term salary prospects, so it's not financially difficult like taking a permanent government or public-interest job would be.

I got married about 6 months ago and am starting law school in the fall, so my husband and I will be nearing the end of our first year of marriage when I start law school.

Fortunately for me, he is already a lawyer, so he knows all about what the first year (and the rest) of law school takes, and he's very supportive of me. But this creates other problems, like what if I feel like I don't measure up to how he did in law school? Or, will I be sucked into taking classes in his areas of interest instead of my own, since he talks about them all the time and points out how important they are?

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